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AlphaGo’s ultimate challenge: a five-game match against Lee Sedol
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- lostdog 11y agoI wish they would highlight the most recent placements, so it's easier to watch intermittently.
- matburt 11y agoWe are relaying the match with discussion and analysis on OGS! The most recent move will be highlighted on the board. https://online-go.com/demo/114161 https://online-go.com/demo/114161
- makoz 11y agoThanks for this! Loved the discussion.
- CamperBob2 11y agoI wish the commentators would pay more attention to the live game board, and less to their own copy of it.
- colordrops 11y agoI know it's not the focus of this game, but it would add to the presentation if a robot handled the stones for alphago.
- cing 11y agoEspecially given today's post on the Google Research Blog: http://googleresearch.blogspot.ca/2016/03/deep-learning-for-robots-learning-from.html http://googleresearch.blogspot.ca/2016/03/deep-learning-for-...
- sigterm 11y agoand used computer vision algorithm to register the opponent's moves...
- kowdermeister 11y agoThat would be evil genius :) But we will see if such an addition would come handy.
- lisivka 11y agoI saw this in an episode of the TV show, but I forgot name of the show. PS. "Person of interest": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkvukotSSms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkvukotSSms
- lololomg 11y agoLee seems to be ahead so far in game 1
- nickpsecurity 11y agoMy money is on the human. This time.
- CamperBob2 11y agoHopefully there's still time to edit your comment before the robots notice...
- nickpsecurity 11y agoMy pal John Conner and I say they can bring it. Got EMP's waiting for them.
- nickpsecurity 11y agohttps://twitter.com/mustafasuleymn/status/707469083458068480 https://twitter.com/mustafasuleymn/status/707469083458068480 (cough) Ok best 2 out of three before it counts. (cough)
- jorgecurio 11y agoI am so stoked for this match, Lee Sedol is a child prodigy and a legend....I literally felt as excited as I was going in McGregor vs Diaz before the fight. I used to play Go when I was a kid on televised matches in Korea during the 90s and have woken up early on saturdays watching every game live on tv. Then I'd go to these Go school after class and there'd be like 30 students studying and fighting. Go is a hugely appealing game to intuitive people rather than logical people who prefer Chess. Go is an infinitely more complex and at these Pro levels a demigod like Lee Sedol have the same fanatic followings.
- jorgecurio 11y agoso I watched this last night and it was an earth shattering moment...like no fucking way sedol gonna get bamboozled by a computer right? AlphaGo winning was the cherry on top but what was really even more intense was the actual battle in itself. It was like Lee Sedol was playing himself but a version of him that would get better and better each time Sedol attacked. AlphaGo surprisingly chose the right strategy which was to be aggressive right back. Overall, I could identify with the commentator's excitement and sort of apprehension that the first battle against the Machines have begun and lost the first round. Lee Sedol must have been taken back at how good AlphaGo is I think he seriously underestimated it because he had a lot of hubris and over confidence going in like 'yeah imma smack the shit out of alphago' and then it after the match is like 'damn gg'. The biggest ground breaking realization is that deep learning has become so good that it is possible to outperform a human even in previously thought impossible problems....who would've thought a bunch of logic gates fast forward 40 years we have machines that beat us in our own games? 80 years from now what will things look like? It's a real reckoning and I really feel the drive to learn deep learning just don't know where to start
- actionwords 11y agowhen a computer can beat me in football then i'll be impressed.
- pmontra 11y agoHalfway through the game and it's difficult to say who's winning. AlphaGo has definitely improved during the winter.
- cloudwalking 11y agoLive on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFr3K2DORc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFr3K2DORc8
- jsnk 11y agoAmazing.. I think AlphaGo is going to win.
- taneq 11y agoLee just resigned. O.o
- djokkataja 11y agoAlphaGo wins :)
- magoghm 11y agoAlphaGo won!
- jamornh 11y agoWow, Lee Sedol just resigned. First game goes to AlphaGo. I wasn't sure who would win the 5 matches, but I never expected AlphaGo to win the first game!
- CamperBob2 11y agoLee was rattled. This match might end up 5-0.
- jamornh 11y agoI really hope his performance isn't going to be affected by this loss, but I think that's a lot to ask of a person. 5-0 to AlphaGo is a big possibility at this point.
- awwducks 11y agoToo early to tell, IMO. The next game will be the bigger game since Lee Sedol has a far better idea what he's up against. If the next game goes like this one did, I would be more inclined to agree with you for the remaining 3.
- imglorp 11y agoHe has the human advantages of adaptability and intuition, the better to try a new strategy next game.
- krastanov 11y agoAdaptability is not all that human (plenty of machines learn from their mistakes and adapt to new settings). Intuition is so poorly defined that depending on what you mean machines easily have it (heuristics, Bayesian inference, etc) or it is just sufficiently vague of a notion that it does not matter.
- arcanus 11y ago> plenty of machines learn from their mistakes and adapt to new settings Curious what you see as examples of this. > Intuition is so poorly defined that depending on what you mean machines easily have it (heuristics, Bayesian inference, etc) As a working scientist and a bayesian practitioner, I'm sceptical algorithms have intuition. From my perspective, almost all models that one codifies are extremely brittle and will produce catastrophic failures (or just nonsense) unless the user possesses enough expert knowledge or intuition to a-priori know not to use the model in this regime. However, I agree with the spirit of the text... go is a well-defined game and adaptability and intuition will be highly limited. For instance, the human can't just turn the board over, or unplug the game!
- awwducks 11y agoA bit late, but this is the AGA feed. https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s No one can believe it. Myungwan Kim 9p says it's likely Lee Sedol feels like he could have won. He also says Alpha Go is likely stronger than he is.
- awwducks 11y agoMyungwan Kim 9p will be doing live commentary at the Korean Cultural Center in Los Angeles for game 3. The second game should be a doozy since Lee Sedol will definitely know what to expect and come in full force!
- awwducks 11y agoIf you're based in LA, here's the event link. https://www.kccla.org/english/calendar_view.asp?cid=4020&imonth=3&iyear=2016 https://www.kccla.org/english/calendar_view.asp?cid=4020&imo...