> Traffic is horrendous all the time. I don't know where you got this, I live in Phoenix metro (Scottsdale) and traffic is generally great except for rush hour

> Traffic is horrendous all the time. I don't know where you got this, I live in Phoenix metro (Scottsdale) and traffic is generally great except for rush hour, and even then it's just I-10 that is really bad. It's true that stuff is fairly sprawled, but I can generally get _anywhere_ within 45 minutes, and the stuff I actually want to get to in less than 30. Plus the airport is right in the middle instead of out in the middle of nowhere, so it's much more accessible too. As for the rest of your comment, well, OK then.