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I swear I just saw a pig flying across the sky. What is going on in Microsoft? Have they finally seen the light? First today comes SQL Server on Linux and now

by junto 11y ago

I swear I just saw a pig flying across the sky. What is going on in Microsoft? Have they finally seen the light? First today comes SQL Server on Linux and now this. It makes a refreshing change. Long may it continue.

nwah1 11y ago
First SQL Server on Linux? More like a continuing strategy going back for years, since they began opening up bits of the .NET framework, compiler, ASP.NET and MVC, etc etc. Now the great majority of the .NET development stack is completely open, aside from Visual Studio itself. But there's always Visual Studio Code, the lightweight, open source alternative. Runs on linux too.
Cyph0n 11y ago
This shift occurred some time back when MS started the process of open-sourcing .NET and porting it to Linux.
theandrewbailey 11y ago
Where do you want to go today? Open source, apparently.
qihqi 11y ago
MS realized that Windows as a platform is not attractive to developers. So it is desperately to win those developers back. On the consumer land, Windows is quite happy being the de-facto platform OS, so it doesn't bother to release anything in other OS (DirectX, Office, just killed Skype in linux etc).
- Someone1234 11y ago
  > so it doesn't bother to release anything in other OS (DirectX, Office, just killed Skype in linux etc). Office is available on other platforms, and they've been adding new platforms in the last couple of years. Currently supports: Android, iOS, Windows Phone, Mac, and PC. Not including their in-browser suite which runs on Chromebooks and your smart fridge. They also haven't killed Skype for Linux. Skype for Linux was terrible before Microsoft purchased Skype. If anything Skype for Linux hasn't been improved while the Skype for Windows client has become progressively worse.
usrusr 11y ago
Before Linux made the GNU development model something that was actually being used, when people thought of openness in computing they usually thought of "100% IBM compatible", running a Microsoft OS. The contrast between the "open" world of PC clones and the isolated islands of hardware makers that supplied their own operating system was as alive and visible back then as the contrast between FOSS and MS is now. Seen this way, the slow transformation from lock-in to charm-in that we observe today is more a return to the roots than a dissolution of identity for Microsoft.

by junto 11y ago

nwah1 11y ago

First SQL Server on Linux? More like a continuing strategy going back for years, since they began opening up bits of the .NET framework, compiler, ASP.NET and MVC, etc etc. Now the great majority of the .NET development stack is completely open, aside from Visual Studio itself. But there's always Visual Studio Code, the lightweight, open source alternative. Runs on linux too.

Cyph0n 11y ago

This shift occurred some time back when MS started the process of open-sourcing .NET and porting it to Linux.

theandrewbailey 11y ago

Where do you want to go today? Open source, apparently.

qihqi 11y ago

MS realized that Windows as a platform is not attractive to developers. So it is desperately to win those developers back. On the consumer land, Windows is quite happy being the de-facto platform OS, so it doesn't bother to release anything in other OS (DirectX, Office, just killed Skype in linux etc).

Someone1234 11y ago
> so it doesn't bother to release anything in other OS (DirectX, Office, just killed Skype in linux etc). Office is available on other platforms, and they've been adding new platforms in the last couple of years. Currently supports: Android, iOS, Windows Phone, Mac, and PC. Not including their in-browser suite which runs on Chromebooks and your smart fridge. They also haven't killed Skype for Linux. Skype for Linux was terrible before Microsoft purchased Skype. If anything Skype for Linux hasn't been improved while the Skype for Windows client has become progressively worse.

usrusr 11y ago

Before Linux made the GNU development model something that was actually being used, when people thought of openness in computing they usually thought of "100% IBM compatible", running a Microsoft OS. The contrast between the "open" world of PC clones and the isolated islands of hardware makers that supplied their own operating system was as alive and visible back then as the contrast between FOSS and MS is now. Seen this way, the slow transformation from lock-in to charm-in that we observe today is more a return to the roots than a dissolution of identity for Microsoft.