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Please explain OS level throttling matters here. After all, we are not talking about general network conditions but performance of a website in a web browser s

by pawadu 11y ago

Please explain OS level throttling matters here. After all, we are not talking about general network conditions but performance of a website in a web browser such as Chrome. The Chrome tools were designed specifically with this in mind (simulate slow network and/or server).

stephenr 11y ago
> After all, we are not talking about general network conditions but performance of a website in a web browser such as Chrome As I explained, a single prefpane on a Mac can potentially allow you to check network performance issues in every browser for OS X, Windows, Linux or any other desktop OS allowing you to thoroughly test how your site/app performs. Saying "I tested it in Chrome and it was OK" is basically the 2010's version of "Works best in Internet Explorer". That a lot of people saying that, are also calling Safari "the new IE6" just makes their position even more ridiculous and laughable.
- pawadu 11y ago
  How confident are you that the behavior of IE11 on Windows 10 inside a VM on OSX with outdated guest drivers and a prefpane only Cupertino understands is really similar to what a real user in say Bangladesh sees? Why not use the tool specifically created for this? A tool that you would be using anyway since you, I hope, also test for screen size/resolution issues?
  - stephenr 11y ago
    > How confident are you that the behavior of IE11 on Windows 10 inside a VM on OSX with outdated guest drivers and a prefpane only Cupertino understands is really similar to what a real user in say Bangladesh sees? a) update your guest drivers. b) what do you mean "only Cupertino understands" c) does Bangladesh have some kind of specifically different "poor network" conditions that the rest of the rest of the world is not aware of? > Why not use the tool specifically created for this? For testing poor network connections? That is specifically what Apple's tool is designed for. > A tool that you would be using anyway since you, I hope, also test for screen size/resolution issues? What are you talking about?
    - pawadu 11y ago
      I think you are missing my point. Bandwidth throttling is only one of the tools you need for performance testing. You may also need to, say, change the screen size and reported device resolution and user agent at the same time. Chrome gathers all these tools and tons more under the same page. And they are specifically created for this purpose, hence probably more accurate than some OS specific implementation.

by pawadu 11y ago

stephenr 11y ago

> After all, we are not talking about general network conditions but performance of a website in a web browser such as Chrome As I explained, a single prefpane on a Mac can potentially allow you to check network performance issues in every browser for OS X, Windows, Linux or any other desktop OS allowing you to thoroughly test how your site/app performs. Saying "I tested it in Chrome and it was OK" is basically the 2010's version of "Works best in Internet Explorer". That a lot of people saying that, are also calling Safari "the new IE6" just makes their position even more ridiculous and laughable.

pawadu 11y ago
How confident are you that the behavior of IE11 on Windows 10 inside a VM on OSX with outdated guest drivers and a prefpane only Cupertino understands is really similar to what a real user in say Bangladesh sees? Why not use the tool specifically created for this? A tool that you would be using anyway since you, I hope, also test for screen size/resolution issues?
- stephenr 11y ago
  > How confident are you that the behavior of IE11 on Windows 10 inside a VM on OSX with outdated guest drivers and a prefpane only Cupertino understands is really similar to what a real user in say Bangladesh sees? a) update your guest drivers. b) what do you mean "only Cupertino understands" c) does Bangladesh have some kind of specifically different "poor network" conditions that the rest of the rest of the world is not aware of? > Why not use the tool specifically created for this? For testing poor network connections? That is specifically what Apple's tool is designed for. > A tool that you would be using anyway since you, I hope, also test for screen size/resolution issues? What are you talking about?
  - pawadu 11y ago
    I think you are missing my point. Bandwidth throttling is only one of the tools you need for performance testing. You may also need to, say, change the screen size and reported device resolution and user agent at the same time. Chrome gathers all these tools and tons more under the same page. And they are specifically created for this purpose, hence probably more accurate than some OS specific implementation.