Yeah, they did. I'm not sure how independent they are, but they're still around roughly 50 people it seems. I was just making the point that unless it's essent

Yeah, they did. I'm not sure how independent they are, but they're still around roughly 50 people it seems. I was just making the point that unless it's essentially you and a couple buddies, profit and revenue is the elephant in the room. Or the center-piece, depending on how brutally honest management wants to be about it.