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When there is a device like this that I can walk into a store and play with before buying as well as have access to thousands of quality applications that make
by cwilson 17y ago
When there is a device like this that I can walk into a store and play with before buying as well as have access to thousands of quality applications that make my life easier or more fun then I'll consider it a competitor to the iPad. Until then this is nothing more then a cool gadget that likely won't see the light of day inside any major retailer.
The iPad is currently the only "tablet" that will ever see mass consumer adoption for a few reasons: 1. Apple is releasing it (meaning it's hyped up, has that cool factor, and you can go play with one in any Apple store first), 2. The app store is unlike anything else out there, and 3. The user experience on the iPad/iPhone is superior to anything else out there right now.
This doesn't mean the Adam won't be cool, but why would any "regular" consumer (meaning not Hacker News readers or anyone like us) consider buying one, or hell, how would they even know it exists?
- dzlobin 17y ago>The app store is unlike anything else out there, If you run Ubuntu on the Adam, I'm pretty sure the internet w/o limitations > the app store.
- SwellJoe 17y agoIt's always been amazing to me that Apple has managed to convince a sizable number of otherwise intelligent people that a walled garden, tightly controlled by an overbearing schoolmarm, is preferable to the Internet and a totally free market. The app store is a huge bug, not a feature. It's just plain bad for developers (because Apple owns yours customers and the pipeline to those customers, and can cut you off without warning if you happen to compete with them or do something they don't like), and bad for consumers (because the approval process slows updates, puts a filter in the relationship between developer and user, keeps useful applications out of users hands, and insures that Open Source applications have almost no room in the market). If consumers (and developers) were smarter, it would be a killer bug; one that prevented anyone from ever buying an iPhone or iPad or developing for it. But, people don't always act in their own best long-term interest, if the packaging is pretty enough.
- Lazlo_Nibble 17y agoWhat amazes me is the number of otherwise-apparently-intelligent people who appear to honestly believe that Apple users are just vapid trendoids who are fooled by all the pretty colors. Strangely, none of them seem to have figured out how to slap the same pretty colors onto their otherwise-superior products/platforms and carve out a chunk of the vapid trendoid market for themselves. How hard can it be?
- fnid2 17y agoIt's really a matter of the size of the walled garden. You could call the entire earth a walled garden if you want. If the walled garden is big enough, people are okay with it. For the majority of apple customers, the app store is plenty big enough. Apple customers are like those animals in the safari sized zoos where they can run around and feel free enough to not care so much about the fences keeping them in.
- SwellJoe 17y agoApple users are just vapid trendoids who are fooled by all the pretty colors. You said it, not me. I never said anything about the quality of Apple products. I mentioned one very specific, but serious, bug in the Apple iPhone/iPad products. I'm not saying Apple doesn't make beautiful products, or even that their products are poor quality (with a pretty face). I said that the App Market is a bug, not a feature, and that I'm surprised that anyone would consider it a positive market trend. I also implied that I'm disappointed that many people who I otherwise respect, have fallen into the trap of being sharecroppers on Apple's land. I'm disappointed because they're enabling what I consider a power shift in the wrong direction (back towards big corporations, and away from consumers and independent developers). Your argument is not relevant to my comment, and I don't have any opinion on vapid trendoids and their choice of computer, phone, or tablet. You can argue with someone else about that.
- paul 17y agoEasy wins. As much as I love downloading and building everything from source... actually, no, I hate that. Apple built that first easy app install experience, and that's the reason people love it, not because of some ideological preference.
- ThomPete 17y agoW/o limitations is cool if you are a hacker. For everyone else it's just annoying. Making boundaries is exactly what makes your product a mass market consumer product. 95% of users of technology need limitations so they can't fuck things up.