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They key is to save madly and prepare for the downturns. One of my friends in SF bought his house in 2011 for 500k. The comps in the area 5 years later are 1.2-

They key is to save madly and prepare for the downturns. One of my friends in SF bought his house in 2011 for 500k. The comps in the area 5 years later are 1.2-1.4m He was prepared (waited 10 years). You can do it, you just have to look at the past as a guide and when opportunities arise, strike. Also don't be afraid of leverage. Good luck :-)

tostitos1979 11y ago
I fear 2011 was a perfect-storm and a once in a lifetime fluke. Not only was there a lot of fear from the collapse of 2008, interest rates were lowered to a level that was never seen before. Like many people on HN, this has hit us hard. I had just finished grad school in 2008 and was single - it was unclear if buying a house/condo made sense then. Fast forward 5 years ... married, jobs, ready to settle ... except now, everything seems pretty expensive. Okay .. lets wait it out. 2013-2016 ... prices keep increasing. Everyone and their uncle is investing in real-estate. REIT are scooping up properties and collatorizing the rent payment. If we had taken a mortgage, our monthly payment would have been fixed but with rents, it keeps going up. I also did the math ... I paid about 180K in rent (averaging between 2500 and 3K a month in places where I lived). I have nothing to show for that. Of course, we all make our own decisions. We have decided to buy (at what may well be the top of the market). We had a need to buy in 2013 and I wish we had not let "expensive prices" deter us. The monthly payment argument was as valid then as it is today. If/when the market turns, we'll buy a bigger place. Right now, we're buying a small starter place and at take a stab at the American dream. That's the logic I'm using. I really wish real estate wasn't causing so much misery but it is... I can't outsmart the market :(
- iolothebard 11y ago
  Lol, I've seen this once in a lifetime fluke 5 times now and I was only born in 1973. In financial planning it's called vulture money.

tostitos1979 11y ago

I fear 2011 was a perfect-storm and a once in a lifetime fluke. Not only was there a lot of fear from the collapse of 2008, interest rates were lowered to a level that was never seen before. Like many people on HN, this has hit us hard. I had just finished grad school in 2008 and was single - it was unclear if buying a house/condo made sense then. Fast forward 5 years ... married, jobs, ready to settle ... except now, everything seems pretty expensive. Okay .. lets wait it out. 2013-2016 ... prices keep increasing. Everyone and their uncle is investing in real-estate. REIT are scooping up properties and collatorizing the rent payment. If we had taken a mortgage, our monthly payment would have been fixed but with rents, it keeps going up. I also did the math ... I paid about 180K in rent (averaging between 2500 and 3K a month in places where I lived). I have nothing to show for that. Of course, we all make our own decisions. We have decided to buy (at what may well be the top of the market). We had a need to buy in 2013 and I wish we had not let "expensive prices" deter us. The monthly payment argument was as valid then as it is today. If/when the market turns, we'll buy a bigger place. Right now, we're buying a small starter place and at take a stab at the American dream. That's the logic I'm using. I really wish real estate wasn't causing so much misery but it is... I can't outsmart the market :(

iolothebard 11y ago
Lol, I've seen this once in a lifetime fluke 5 times now and I was only born in 1973. In financial planning it's called vulture money.