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> 5. American designed, American built, no $$$ going to questionable oil interests. I don't see what that has to do with America, except for 'Murica f'yeah >

by conceit 11y ago

> 5. American designed, American built, no $$$ going to questionable oil interests. I don't see what that has to do with America, except for 'Murica f'yeah > 7. Over-The-Air software updates that actually add useful features. No, I don't need to go to the service center to update my software. LOL! ROFL > 8. It drives itself? Autopilot! Nice! Don't many cars have that to the limited degree already allowed by law?

maratd 11y ago
> I don't see what that has to do with America, except for 'Murica f'yeah I enjoy buying locally built products when possible, especially when those products are superior to anything else available. > ROFL Get off the floor and tell me what's so funny. > Don't many cars have that to the limited degree already allowed by law? No. Model S and Model X are the only cars available that drive themselves. Some other cars have cruise control that will stay within the lane, but it won't change lanes, break, or accelerate based on traffic conditions.
- conceit 11y ago
  Search "hack car freeway wifi" in the search engine of your choice. Granted, not a Tesla, but is that only a matter of time and willpower or actually supporting your argument?
  - maratd 11y ago
    > Granted, not a Tesla, but is that only a matter of time and willpower or actually supporting your argument? Supporting my argument. Tesla sits on an encrypted VPN, good luck with that. Maybe if you break into Tesla HQ? You're better off going after the bluetooth (the key fobs/car are bluetooth) or NFC (the key fobs/car have NFC in case batteries die in fobs). There's also an ethernet port of sorts in the vehicle, although it has been disconnected with latest firmware. Anyway, when it comes to Tesla, you'll have better chances of hacking into it with physical access. You are definitely not getting access to my car with "wifi".
    - conceit 11y ago
      > Tesla sits on an encrypted VPN, good luck with that Well, if you say so. Still, what about the locally built products? Oil isn't the only import needed for a traditional car. The ethernet port, bluetooth/NFC key fobs all the chips, are made in china no doubt, maybe even many engine parts. Recources are exploited from mines outside America under bad conditions. The energy to load the battery is generated partially from fracked fossil fuel. America supports Saudis for a bit more than just oil and they sure don't care what the tax money was generated from. * In 2014, about 27% of the petroleum consumed by the United States was imported from foreign countries.* [1]. Half the American designers are probably immigrated from India and China. Our visions of the great US of A diverge a little. [1] https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=32&t=6 https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=32&t=6

by conceit 11y ago

maratd 11y ago

> I don't see what that has to do with America, except for 'Murica f'yeah I enjoy buying locally built products when possible, especially when those products are superior to anything else available. > ROFL Get off the floor and tell me what's so funny. > Don't many cars have that to the limited degree already allowed by law? No. Model S and Model X are the only cars available that drive themselves. Some other cars have cruise control that will stay within the lane, but it won't change lanes, break, or accelerate based on traffic conditions.

conceit 11y ago
Search "hack car freeway wifi" in the search engine of your choice. Granted, not a Tesla, but is that only a matter of time and willpower or actually supporting your argument?
- maratd 11y ago
  > Granted, not a Tesla, but is that only a matter of time and willpower or actually supporting your argument? Supporting my argument. Tesla sits on an encrypted VPN, good luck with that. Maybe if you break into Tesla HQ? You're better off going after the bluetooth (the key fobs/car are bluetooth) or NFC (the key fobs/car have NFC in case batteries die in fobs). There's also an ethernet port of sorts in the vehicle, although it has been disconnected with latest firmware. Anyway, when it comes to Tesla, you'll have better chances of hacking into it with physical access. You are definitely not getting access to my car with "wifi".
  - conceit 11y ago
    > Tesla sits on an encrypted VPN, good luck with that Well, if you say so. Still, what about the locally built products? Oil isn't the only import needed for a traditional car. The ethernet port, bluetooth/NFC key fobs all the chips, are made in china no doubt, maybe even many engine parts. Recources are exploited from mines outside America under bad conditions. The energy to load the battery is generated partially from fracked fossil fuel. America supports Saudis for a bit more than just oil and they sure don't care what the tax money was generated from. * In 2014, about 27% of the petroleum consumed by the United States was imported from foreign countries.* [1]. Half the American designers are probably immigrated from India and China. Our visions of the great US of A diverge a little. [1] https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=32&t=6 https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=32&t=6