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Sigh - this fallacy is getting tiresome. Of course they use the "free" option when you don't actually offer them any other options. https://www.asc.upenn.edu/n

by pdkl95 11y ago

Sigh - this fallacy is getting tiresome. Of course they use the "free" option when you don't actually offer them any other options. https://www.asc.upenn.edu/news-events/publications/tradeoff-fallacy-how-marketers-are-misrepresenting-american-consumers-and https://www.asc.upenn.edu/news-events/publications/tradeoff-... Of course, there is also the possibility that the actual market value of a lot off "content" is zero. In those cases, deriving your revenue from advertising distorts the market.

TheLogothete 11y ago
I have only glanced at this, but it seems that it is about optins for discounts at retailers. Not quite what we are discussing here, is it? Also, I can make a study and get whatever results I wish. Talk about fallacies. My challenge stands. Go ahead, start a search engine and charge people to use it.
- narrowrail 11y ago
  >I can make a study and get whatever results I wish. I don't think it is a fair way to argue at all when someone links to an actual study, and you assert that all studies are worthless?
  - TheLogothete 11y ago
    He accentuates some research as the be-all, end-all authority on the matter. Of course it is a valid argument to point out that a study can be fabricated to give arbitrary conclusions. Plot twist: the study is not actually on topic.
jheriko 11y ago
I don't think its a fallacious viewpoint... although you are right that there are few alternative options in this case. Generally people want to get the best value for their money - free things are the positive extreme of good value for money... and whilst people will pay more for something that is better than the free version, this is often a very small proportion of those who will use a free version. at least based on my real world experiences from working on apps that have both free and paid versions... away from the extreme this logic is obviously faulty though. i've seen many cases where /raising/ a price increases the volume sold... which completely baffles me.

by pdkl95 11y ago

TheLogothete 11y ago

I have only glanced at this, but it seems that it is about optins for discounts at retailers. Not quite what we are discussing here, is it? Also, I can make a study and get whatever results I wish. Talk about fallacies. My challenge stands. Go ahead, start a search engine and charge people to use it.

narrowrail 11y ago
>I can make a study and get whatever results I wish. I don't think it is a fair way to argue at all when someone links to an actual study, and you assert that all studies are worthless?
- TheLogothete 11y ago
  He accentuates some research as the be-all, end-all authority on the matter. Of course it is a valid argument to point out that a study can be fabricated to give arbitrary conclusions. Plot twist: the study is not actually on topic.

jheriko 11y ago

I don't think its a fallacious viewpoint... although you are right that there are few alternative options in this case. Generally people want to get the best value for their money - free things are the positive extreme of good value for money... and whilst people will pay more for something that is better than the free version, this is often a very small proportion of those who will use a free version. at least based on my real world experiences from working on apps that have both free and paid versions... away from the extreme this logic is obviously faulty though. i've seen many cases where /raising/ a price increases the volume sold... which completely baffles me.