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Should we really be relying on the medical system for loving support? That's the direction where depressed people will be drugged up and plugged into the matrix

by meric 11y ago

Should we really be relying on the medical system for loving support? That's the direction where depressed people will be drugged up and plugged into the matrix. If a person has to rely on the medical system for affection, I'd say there's a bigger problem in society. Suicide is the symptom and focusing on artificially preventing without looking at the way government, debt, taking away religion and throwing the good parts out along with the bad, expectations of conformity intrudes in our lives, it is burying our heads in the sand. Just look at the way society values lonely fifty year old man compared to a twenty year old attractive women - the latter can go on tinder and receive a firehose of affection, while the former would merely be seen as a creep.

DanBC 11y ago
I agree with you, but: When a person with a mental illness turns to the medical system for support they should be offered a range of psycho-social interventions as well as purely medical stuff. We know how debt or problem drinking or vulnerable housing or lack of a job or social isolation or etc etc can make mental health problems much worse. In that situation it's pointless just giving people the medication because they've still got the other stuff going on. Modern English treatment for mental health problems should be including this range of support. It's not all provided by the NHS. A lot of it is provided by social interest companies (charities) (although it's often paid for by the NHS). > If a person has to rely on the medical system for affection, I'd say there's a bigger problem in society. Yes! Social isolation is a pretty widespread problem. Here the person has become isolated, and needs a bit of help and support to become unisolated. And they need that before they can make use of the other stuff that society provides. Joining a 5-a-side soccer team would help reduce a person's social isolation, but they may need help and support to access that 5 a side soccer. This might only be a bit of sign-posting, or it might be a bit more intensive like shaddowing or buddying.

by meric 11y ago

DanBC 11y ago

I agree with you, but: When a person with a mental illness turns to the medical system for support they should be offered a range of psycho-social interventions as well as purely medical stuff. We know how debt or problem drinking or vulnerable housing or lack of a job or social isolation or etc etc can make mental health problems much worse. In that situation it's pointless just giving people the medication because they've still got the other stuff going on. Modern English treatment for mental health problems should be including this range of support. It's not all provided by the NHS. A lot of it is provided by social interest companies (charities) (although it's often paid for by the NHS). > If a person has to rely on the medical system for affection, I'd say there's a bigger problem in society. Yes! Social isolation is a pretty widespread problem. Here the person has become isolated, and needs a bit of help and support to become unisolated. And they need that before they can make use of the other stuff that society provides. Joining a 5-a-side soccer team would help reduce a person's social isolation, but they may need help and support to access that 5 a side soccer. This might only be a bit of sign-posting, or it might be a bit more intensive like shaddowing or buddying.