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Bias note: I've been an Amazon SDE for the last few years, though no where near the devices division (I make warehouses and delivery systems work better, weee).
by mabbo 11y ago
Bias note: I've been an Amazon SDE for the last few years, though no where near the devices division (I make warehouses and delivery systems work better, weee). Additional note: in no way do I speak for the company, I'm just a guy who writes code and likes working here.
Generally speaking, this isn't how Amazon operates.
Firing someone for making a bad call is silly. Mistakes were clearly made but firing people in situations like this is like cutting off your hand because you burned your finger. The person who made the call probably has made hundreds of good calls over the years, and will continue to make good calls in the future, given the chance. Sure, if this is a pattern of stupid mistakes then clearly this person is in the wrong role, but that's not nearly as likely to be the case.
Instead, I suspect a process will be put in place to help make these decisions better in the future- and process written in large part by the person who made the mistake. This way, not only will they not make a mistake like this again, but no one else will either.
Maybe I'm wrong, but from what I've seen of the Amazon culture that's how we generally react to mistakes.
- JoBrad 11y agoThat is exactly the right culture. If someone makes a series of blunders, without the history of good choices, that's one thing (maybe they need to be in a different position?), but simply firing someone over one decision is usually very bad for morale, and doesn't really teach anyone anything.
- ikeboy 11y agoHm, remember http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/27/apple-fires-maps-manager/ http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/27/apple-fires-maps-ma...?
- jamez1 11y agoIt's better to lean on the side of consequences than freedom, given that their incentives are only partly aligned with the shareholders. They'll do stupid M&A, plunder money on consultants and make up bullshit all for something to do. Management tends to be more of an autocracy than meritocracy and a good business needs to push against that. If you are lenient and you give them time to figure it out - they just use that leniency on themselves instead of the company.