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> Much of it is just "I haven't learned to do my job." The point of the article is that java makes his job harder. There are standard tools (syslog, truss, ldd
by jcmhn 17y ago
> Much of it is just "I haven't learned to do my job."
The point of the article is that java makes his job harder. There are standard tools (syslog, truss, ldd) that he uses to troubleshoot problems under unix, and java supports zero of them.
- dlsspy 17y agoSo... learn new tools? It's not hard to get the stack traces of every thread in a java vm at any point in time. It's not hard to get java using syslog if you really want it to (I wrote a syslog client for java, but ended up deciding it wasn't right for my problem). ldd typically doesn't make much sense in a java deployment, because people typically will publish all of the parts together in such a way that it's fairly obvious what pieces are in use. If we're all attached to all of our tools, we can never make progress.
- gnosis 17y agoMaybe there just needs to be some good, brief "Java for sysadmins" docs that address some of the issues raised in this article and the comments in this thread. A bit of googling found this: http://stefanparvu.blogspot.com/2007/08/java-for-sysadmins.html http://stefanparvu.blogspot.com/2007/08/java-for-sysadmins.h...