> It's still hard work, of course I think the hard work angle has a lot of mystique attached to it as well. Take a well-known study[0]: 10 week period: N

> It's still hard work, of course I think the hard work angle has a lot of mystique attached to it as well. Take a well-known study[0]: 10 week period: No exercise, no gear: no changes No exercise, on gear: 7 lbs of muscle added On exercise, no gear: 4 lbs of muscle added On exercise, on gear: 13lbs of muscle added So it turns out that you can basically double the effects of working out really hard by just juicing. The whole "I juice, but I work out enough I'd be almost this big anyway" thing is unfactual. [0] http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101 http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101