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> Yes, the font and web design is straight out of 1999. The objection wasn't to the site layout. It was "this site is clearly pushing an agenda, and I don't tr

by philh 11y ago

> Yes, the font and web design is straight out of 1999. The objection wasn't to the site layout. It was "this site is clearly pushing an agenda, and I don't trust them to fairly represent their sources". Which I think is fair: someone who writes that "fatherless children" list is not arguing coherently and in good faith.

zxcvvcxz 11y ago
I can concede that the list at the bottom does not help the site's credibility and would turn people off from discussion on the topic. It's a mistake that they would do that. And I will rectify the mistake in this post to spark further discussion. I chose the site because it had a great summary of the important studies - which are perfectly valid science and statistics. Here is an alternative list of sources (not hosted on a site with a fallacious list, just my HN comment) that speaks to the same manner of strong negative correlations associated with single motherhood: --- Source: Robert E. Rector, “Increasing Marriage Will Dramatically Reduce Child Poverty,” The Heritage Foundation, Center for Data Analysis Report, No. 03-06 (May 20, 2003). Source: Daniel T. Lichter, Deborah Roempke, and Brian J. Brown, “Is Marriage a Panacea? Union Formation Among Economically Disadvantaged Unwed Mothers,” Social Problems 50 (2003): 60-86. Source: Tillman, K. H. (2007). Family structure pathways and academic disadvantage among adolescents in stepfamilies. Journal of Marriage and Family. Source: Edward Kruk, Ph.D., “The Vital Importance of Paternal Presence in Children’s Lives.” May 23, 2012. Source: Hofferth, S. L. (2006). Residential father family type and child well-being: investment versus selection. Demography, 43, 53-78. Source: Osborne, C., and McLanahan, S. (2007). Partnership instability and child well-being. Journal of Marriage and Family, 69, 1065-1083. Source: Hoffmann, John P. “The Community Context of Family Structure and Adolescent Drug Use.” Journal of Marriage and Family 64 (May 2002): 314-330. Source: Stephen Demuth and Susan L. Brown, “Family Structure, Family Processes, and Adolescent Delinquency: The Significance of Parental Absence Versus Parental Gender,” Journal of Research in Crime and Delinquency 41, No. 1 (February 2004): 58-81. Source: Teachman, Jay D. “The Childhood Living Arrangements of Children and the Characteristics of Their Marriages.” Journal of Family Issues 25 (January 2004): 86-111. Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey, “Living Arrangements of Children under 18 Years/1 and Marital Status of Parents by Age, Sex, Race, and Hispanic Origin/2 and Selected Characteristics of the Child for all Children 2010.” Table C3. Internet Release Date November, 2010. Source: Nord, Christine Winquist, and Jerry West. Fathers’ and Mothers’ Involvement in their Children’s Schools by Family Type and Resident Status. Table 1. (NCES 2001-032). Washington, DC: U.S. Dept of Education, National Center of Education Statistics, 2001. Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey; and America’s Children: Key Indicators of National Wellbeing, 2011. Source: Census Bureau. “Living Arrangements of Children Under 18 Years Old: 1960 to Present.” U.S. Census Bureau, July 1, 2012.

by philh 11y ago

zxcvvcxz 11y ago

I can concede that the list at the bottom does not help the site's credibility and would turn people off from discussion on the topic. It's a mistake that they would do that. And I will rectify the mistake in this post to spark further discussion. I chose the site because it had a great summary of the important studies - which are perfectly valid science and statistics. Here is an alternative list of sources (not hosted on a site with a fallacious list, just my HN comment) that speaks to the same manner of strong negative correlations associated with single motherhood: --- Source: Robert E. Rector, “Increasing Marriage Will Dramatically Reduce Child Poverty,” The Heritage Foundation, Center for Data Analysis Report, No. 03-06 (May 20, 2003). Source: Daniel T. Lichter, Deborah Roempke, and Brian J. Brown, “Is Marriage a Panacea? Union Formation Among Economically Disadvantaged Unwed Mothers,” Social Problems 50 (2003): 60-86. Source: Tillman, K. H. (2007). Family structure pathways and academic disadvantage among adolescents in stepfamilies. Journal of Marriage and Family. Source: Edward Kruk, Ph.D., “The Vital Importance of Paternal Presence in Children’s Lives.” May 23, 2012. Source: Hofferth, S. L. (2006). Residential father family type and child well-being: investment versus selection. Demography, 43, 53-78. Source: Osborne, C., and McLanahan, S. (2007). Partnership instability and child well-being. Journal of Marriage and Family, 69, 1065-1083. Source: Hoffmann, John P. “The Community Context of Family Structure and Adolescent Drug Use.” Journal of Marriage and Family 64 (May 2002): 314-330. Source: Stephen Demuth and Susan L. Brown, “Family Structure, Family Processes, and Adolescent Delinquency: The Significance of Parental Absence Versus Parental Gender,” Journal of Research in Crime and Delinquency 41, No. 1 (February 2004): 58-81. Source: Teachman, Jay D. “The Childhood Living Arrangements of Children and the Characteristics of Their Marriages.” Journal of Family Issues 25 (January 2004): 86-111. Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey, “Living Arrangements of Children under 18 Years/1 and Marital Status of Parents by Age, Sex, Race, and Hispanic Origin/2 and Selected Characteristics of the Child for all Children 2010.” Table C3. Internet Release Date November, 2010. Source: Nord, Christine Winquist, and Jerry West. Fathers’ and Mothers’ Involvement in their Children’s Schools by Family Type and Resident Status. Table 1. (NCES 2001-032). Washington, DC: U.S. Dept of Education, National Center of Education Statistics, 2001. Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey; and America’s Children: Key Indicators of National Wellbeing, 2011. Source: Census Bureau. “Living Arrangements of Children Under 18 Years Old: 1960 to Present.” U.S. Census Bureau, July 1, 2012.