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This sounds like a Police, Fire, and/or Military hiring process. For example; The test to get hired with my fire department was 2 hours long. 1800+ people took
by monkmartinez 11y ago
This sounds like a Police, Fire, and/or Military hiring process.
For example;
The test to get hired with my fire department was 2 hours long. 1800+ people took the test: 400 passed.
Then you have to pass a Physical test: 250 passed.
Then there are two formal interviews: 150 passed.
Then the final selection of 50.
After the selection, the candidate is required to pass a 22 week academy. The attrition rate in the academy is roughly 30%
So out of the 50 that start the academy ~35 graduate.
Then you are on probation for 1 full year, where maybe 5 or so are fired for various reasons. That is, once you get past the interviews, the real training and evaluation begins. There is no guarantee that you will have a job until you complete probation.
- darryl42 11y agoAnd if you move between cities or switch fire halls you are back to writing the the test? This is the equivalent of getting into the school you want, not a job interview.
- monkmartinez 11y agoI am not sure I understand what you mean exactly. You can't just "switch" fire departments without the "process", at least I am not aware of any. If I wanted to move, I would have to do most, if not all of the "process" over again... complete with no guarantees.
- darryl42 11y agoReally? You move from city A to city B and have to go back to fire fighter school? Admittedly I don't know very many firefighters but the way in for some was to get in a small city, then move to a larger one as they were already in the club so to speak. I don't believe they started at the bottom rung again.
- brooklyndavs 11y agoBetween this and the software engineer vs developer article that was on the front page yesterday I really am starting to think if our industry needs to start taking some sort of industry wide recognized professional certificate into consideration. I know IEEE offers some but I've never met anyone who actually has one. I love how egalitarian software development and engineering is but I think the root of the problem is I as a hiring manager don't trust you can do the things you say you can do. So I'm going to use a test/trail period/white-boarding session to find that out. While making it a little less open an industry wide certificate would at least certify a minimal skill set level for everyone.