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Exactly, that's not a free speech issue, and talking like that is cynical.
by swehner 11y ago
Exactly, that's not a free speech issue, and talking like that is cynical.
- millstone 11y agoWhat are you talking about? Compelling an artist to create and sign a work is absolutely a free speech issue.
- swehner 11y agoHere is how one commonly goes about defining free speech, "Freedom of speech is the right to communicate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship." So that's a great freedom. What you're saying is the other way around.
- euyyn 11y agoFWIU, _compelled speech_ is unconstitutional too.
- swehner 11y agoHow do you distinguish this case from the obligation to sign tax returns? (I think that is 26 U.S. Code § 6061, https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/6061 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/6061) The talk a bit about it here, https://www.irs.gov/Tax-Professionals/The-Truth-About-Frivolous-Tax-Arguments-Section-I-D-to-E https://www.irs.gov/Tax-Professionals/The-Truth-About-Frivol... And this is kind of similar but about the 5th Amendment. http://openjurist.org/775/f2d/1292/eh-mosher-v-internal-revenue-service http://openjurist.org/775/f2d/1292/eh-mosher-v-internal-reve...
- ominous 11y agoCould Apple then invalidate what it was previously coerced to say AND not expect government retaliation or censorship?
- sigmar 11y agoI'm not sure if you are trolling or not, but that is very obviously a free speech issue.
- swehner 11y agoDisagreeing. Nothing "very obvious" about it.
- aninhumer 11y agoIf you can compel speech, then you can effectively censor people by forcing them to disavow their messages, and then burying their signal in compelled noise. Or to put it another way, compelling speech is denying the right to send the null message.
- swehner 11y agoYes, that is not a useful way of looking at the issue. Noone cares about the "null message".