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your house is not a company. your lawnmower is not an employee, he's a vendor.

by metaphorm 11y ago

gozur88 11y ago
I own my house, the same way I would own a company. And I pay the lawn guy to do a job. I don't see the big difference.
- metaphorm 11y ago
  its really kind mind blowing to me that you don't see a difference but I'll spell it out for you. a company is an organization of humans. a house is an object. You purchase a service from the lawn care vendor. You are their customer. You are not the employer of the guy who mows the lawn. That guy is either self-employed or he might be the employee of a lawncare company.
  - gozur88 11y ago
    >its really kind mind blowing to me that you don't see a difference but I'll spell it out for you.. Oh, THANK YOU for the scraps of information you're about to impart. >a company is an organization of humans. No it isn't. A company (or corporation) is a legal fiction in which the owners are pooling resources to make money. It may do nothing and have no full-time employees. It may own other companies who do nothing and have no full-time employees. The "organization of humans" isn't the company. Those people are employees who work for the company. I know it's in fashion for CEOs to say "we are the company", but that's a polite fiction you tell people to motivate them. If you have any doubt this is true, watch what happens when the company doesn't need them any more. >You purchase a service from the lawn care vendor. You are their customer. You are not the employer of the guy who mows the lawn. That guy is either self-employed or he might be the employee of a lawncare company. While that's true from a legal perspective, it's a meaningless distinction. I'm paying the guy to do a job. If I stop paying him to do a job, it has an impact on his life. In leftist parlance that makes him a "stakeholder", by which they mean he ought to have some input into the decisions I make as the owner.
    - dragonwriter 11y ago
      > > a company is an organization of humans. > No it isn't. A company (or corporation) is a legal fiction in which the owners are pooling resources to make money. A company is a generic term in English for any (particularly business) organization. It includes things that do not have distinct legal identity from the persons comprising the organization. A corporation is specifically a particular form of company, distinguished by distinct legal personhood and other particular legal treatments.
      - gozur88 11y ago
        Common usage for the word "company" isn't really relevant to this discussion.
        dllthomas 11y ago
        But "company" includes partnerships and sole proprietorships without any resort to common usage.
        dragonwriter 11y ago
        That's not just common usage, it's the technical difference between "company" and "corporation".

your house is not a company. your lawnmower is not an employee, he's a vendor.

gozur88 11y ago

I own my house, the same way I would own a company. And I pay the lawn guy to do a job. I don't see the big difference.

metaphorm 11y ago
its really kind mind blowing to me that you don't see a difference but I'll spell it out for you. a company is an organization of humans. a house is an object. You purchase a service from the lawn care vendor. You are their customer. You are not the employer of the guy who mows the lawn. That guy is either self-employed or he might be the employee of a lawncare company.
- gozur88 11y ago
  >its really kind mind blowing to me that you don't see a difference but I'll spell it out for you.. Oh, THANK YOU for the scraps of information you're about to impart. >a company is an organization of humans. No it isn't. A company (or corporation) is a legal fiction in which the owners are pooling resources to make money. It may do nothing and have no full-time employees. It may own other companies who do nothing and have no full-time employees. The "organization of humans" isn't the company. Those people are employees who work for the company. I know it's in fashion for CEOs to say "we are the company", but that's a polite fiction you tell people to motivate them. If you have any doubt this is true, watch what happens when the company doesn't need them any more. >You purchase a service from the lawn care vendor. You are their customer. You are not the employer of the guy who mows the lawn. That guy is either self-employed or he might be the employee of a lawncare company. While that's true from a legal perspective, it's a meaningless distinction. I'm paying the guy to do a job. If I stop paying him to do a job, it has an impact on his life. In leftist parlance that makes him a "stakeholder", by which they mean he ought to have some input into the decisions I make as the owner.
  - dragonwriter 11y ago
    > > a company is an organization of humans. > No it isn't. A company (or corporation) is a legal fiction in which the owners are pooling resources to make money. A company is a generic term in English for any (particularly business) organization. It includes things that do not have distinct legal identity from the persons comprising the organization. A corporation is specifically a particular form of company, distinguished by distinct legal personhood and other particular legal treatments.
    - gozur88 11y ago
      Common usage for the word "company" isn't really relevant to this discussion.
      - dllthomas 11y ago
        But "company" includes partnerships and sole proprietorships without any resort to common usage.
      - dragonwriter 11y ago
        That's not just common usage, it's the technical difference between "company" and "corporation".