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I think a lot of engineers are motivated by other things. By contrast I think a lot of "bootcampers" are looking for a salary pop.

by Kinnard 11y ago

aikah 11y ago
> I think a lot of engineers are motivated by other things. Sure, but it doesn't mean good engineers don't know what they are worth. If Etsy has hard time recruiting "engineers", Etsy should ask themselves what kind of deal they are offering in order to attract the profile they seek and not write a blog that dismiss "developers" as inferior. Because it reads like "if you're a developer stop applying", well if Etsy wants something else, or Etsy feels like it's not getting "the best of the best", it's Etsy's problem and what they offer, not the candidates.
- Kinnard 11y ago
  The "best of the best" have frequently made enough money to stop working but they keep working, that's because they're not working for money.
  - aikah 11y ago
    > The "best of the best" have frequently made enough money to stop working but they keep working, that's because they're not working for money. Who's going to work at Etsy for a pittance when other companies offer them a better deal? If Etsy has hard time recruiting "engineers" then problem is at Etsy. They should ask themselves why they have hard time recruiting the profile they seek instead of blaming "developers".
    - Kinnard 11y ago
      People who have all the money they need and like what Etsy is doing? As well as people who aren't quite so skilled/talented and can't/won't compete for higher paying positions? Some combination of the two?
autotune 11y ago
I would salary is a huge motivator for any engineer looking to support their lifestyle, then job responsibilities and ongoing career growth are the most important, followed team dynamic IMHO. The only difference maybe with the bootcampers is maybe not being as concerned with ongoing career growth or keeping up with new trends in tech to keep their skills updated.

I think a lot of engineers are motivated by other things. By contrast I think a lot of "bootcampers" are looking for a salary pop.

by Kinnard 11y ago

I think a lot of engineers are motivated by other things. By contrast I think a lot of "bootcampers" are looking for a salary pop.

aikah 11y ago

> I think a lot of engineers are motivated by other things. Sure, but it doesn't mean good engineers don't know what they are worth. If Etsy has hard time recruiting "engineers", Etsy should ask themselves what kind of deal they are offering in order to attract the profile they seek and not write a blog that dismiss "developers" as inferior. Because it reads like "if you're a developer stop applying", well if Etsy wants something else, or Etsy feels like it's not getting "the best of the best", it's Etsy's problem and what they offer, not the candidates.

Kinnard 11y ago
The "best of the best" have frequently made enough money to stop working but they keep working, that's because they're not working for money.
- aikah 11y ago
  > The "best of the best" have frequently made enough money to stop working but they keep working, that's because they're not working for money. Who's going to work at Etsy for a pittance when other companies offer them a better deal? If Etsy has hard time recruiting "engineers" then problem is at Etsy. They should ask themselves why they have hard time recruiting the profile they seek instead of blaming "developers".
  - Kinnard 11y ago
    People who have all the money they need and like what Etsy is doing? As well as people who aren't quite so skilled/talented and can't/won't compete for higher paying positions? Some combination of the two?

autotune 11y ago

I would salary is a huge motivator for any engineer looking to support their lifestyle, then job responsibilities and ongoing career growth are the most important, followed team dynamic IMHO. The only difference maybe with the bootcampers is maybe not being as concerned with ongoing career growth or keeping up with new trends in tech to keep their skills updated.