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This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the sam

This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the same message again. Fuck you, I'm not diabling Ghostery and letting you get to my social media information. The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

e40 11y ago
uBlock Origin + enabling "Anti-Adblock Killer | Reek" 3rd-party filter allows me to see all wired.com content. I found out about this in a comment here on HN, so I'm passing on the knowledge.
mixedCase 11y ago
No issues here using uBlock with Adblock Warning Removal List, Anti-Adblock Killer, EasyList, Peter Lowe's list, EasyPrivacy and Fanboy's Enhanced Tracking List enabled.
- throweway 11y ago
  Im surpised you can see your browser with all that blockification
tempestn 11y ago
And then if you do disable adblock, it's difficult to read the article because there's a never-ending stream of animated big macs and bank ads and crap pasted beside it, helpfully fixed position so you don't accidentally scroll it off the screen. I say as someone who makes his living largely from ads, if you have to force someone to view your ads, they're not going to click on them anyway! What's the point? All you've done is potentially driven away a reader.
- sirkneeland 11y ago
  If they're paid by CPI, do they need you to click on them?
  - throweway 11y ago
    Yes! Advertisers do track roi and won't keep burning dosh.
  - calbear81 11y ago
    For something like McDonald's what's the point of tracking a click? Few will click and it's not like you can order a Big Mac and fries online. They'll most likely track it to some type of in-store sales/visit number based on where they have targeted the ads.
epalmer 11y ago
I was able to read the article with uBlock Origin enabled without a problem. But I agree with you: >The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.
jakobegger 11y ago
I didn't even bother trying to disable my ad blocker, I just closed the tab. I don't want to look at websites with ads. If the only way to view a website is with ads, I'd rather not view the website at all.
- ianlevesque 11y ago
  And you didn't miss anything. A useless fluff piece promoting their social network builder.
  - progressive_dad 11y ago
    I for one encourage our new adblock paywall overlords. To extrapolate this idea further... How much more blatant could you be in saying, "To us, the ads are more important than the content." Which inevitably progresses toward better ads and worse content... It is a perverse thing to do, but a useful filter bubble imposed by the content providers themselves. Likely far more accurate than my own ability to judge the quality of the content in the long term in most cases.
eveningcoffee 11y ago
$1 per week is not acceptable amount for accessing random Wired content (that would be $52 a year). Perhpas $0.1 a week, or even $0.01 per week. Or small amount per view (for example $0.01 or even lower, much lower amount), but, the big but, this would considerably put peoples privacy into risk and this would contradict the use case of many ad block users. So here is the deal Wired - you implement an anonymous payment network and you stop sending data to Google, Facebook and others, or people would just stop visiting your site. Well, this is my prediction and time will tell how much truth is there in it.
- TheOtherHobbes 11y ago
  I'm looking forward to the day one of the world's oldest and most annoying web magazines falls off the web because it doesn't understand the web any more.
a_imho 11y ago
They really are going too far. IANAL, but I think CFAA [1] applies to trying to detect what setup I'm running. Also, I suggest using the term content blocker, guess it creates less of an attack surface for pro advertisers. Plug: I strongly encourage disclaimers like [2] "Don't forget to turn on your content blockers, linked sites might not respect your privacy" [1]http://blog.erratasec.com/2012/11/you-are-committing-crime-right-now.html http://blog.erratasec.com/2012/11/you-are-committing-crime-r... [2]https://anonimho.com/about.html https://anonimho.com/about.html
kecks 11y ago
I don't have this problem, I got a perfectly clean page without any ads or social media icons. I'm running the latest Chrome with uBlock Origin (bunch of filters incl. privacy, social and anti-anti-adblock) and Ghostery. I don't know why you're having this problem, maybe try adding a few blocklists?
ncphillips 11y ago
Click the link and then as soon as the page article is loaded hit the Stop button in browser. Prevents the Disable Ad-block page form opening up.
NoGravitas 11y ago
Huh. I guess my anti-anti-adblocker is working better than yours. I didn't get that screen. Running uBlock Origin in Medium Mode.
hrvbr 11y ago
For this kind of anti-adblocking that loads the full page before hiding it, we can just display and read the full page with the "article view" feature. I use the Clearly extention for that because Firefox's native version is rarely available. But yes, it's a very bad business practice to give the middle finger to those interested in your products, even if you can't monetize their presence yet.
pfooti 11y ago
FWIW, I have ghostery (36 trackers blocked on the parent) and am able to see the post content. So it may be some configuration problem on your end.
RUG3Y 11y ago
Yes, I saw that the article is on Wired, and I decided not to click on it. That's where the adblock wars will lead, imo.
anonymouscow0 11y ago
Downloading PDFs from random people on the Internet might not be the best idea but I printed the article: https://mega.nz/#!yZ1g3a7I!abyz-XGGRPZ3sdkDW0CulmKRA8NGFKSHdnOb5tRuwwQ https://mega.nz/#!yZ1g3a7I!abyz-XGGRPZ3sdkDW0CulmKRA8NGFKSHd... I've been doing that a lot, printing to PDF, is it bad? I'm not sure I went as far to go into an "anonymous" account here.
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j_s 11y ago
When I hit Wired and their ad-block detection I do a select all, copy and paste into a text editor... wonder how long it will take them to block this work-around!
fredleblanc 11y ago
If it helps, I use Disconnect, uBlock Origin, and Privacy Badger as my blocking solutions, and although they blocked a ton of stuff, I didn't get harassed about ad-block and could see the whole page. This time.
simonebrunozzi 11y ago
It's yet another sign of a growing crisis. What will happen next?

e40 11y ago

uBlock Origin + enabling "Anti-Adblock Killer | Reek" 3rd-party filter allows me to see all wired.com content. I found out about this in a comment here on HN, so I'm passing on the knowledge.

mixedCase 11y ago

No issues here using uBlock with Adblock Warning Removal List, Anti-Adblock Killer, EasyList, Peter Lowe's list, EasyPrivacy and Fanboy's Enhanced Tracking List enabled.

throweway 11y ago
Im surpised you can see your browser with all that blockification

tempestn 11y ago

And then if you do disable adblock, it's difficult to read the article because there's a never-ending stream of animated big macs and bank ads and crap pasted beside it, helpfully fixed position so you don't accidentally scroll it off the screen. I say as someone who makes his living largely from ads, if you have to force someone to view your ads, they're not going to click on them anyway! What's the point? All you've done is potentially driven away a reader.

sirkneeland 11y ago
If they're paid by CPI, do they need you to click on them?
- throweway 11y ago
  Yes! Advertisers do track roi and won't keep burning dosh.
- calbear81 11y ago
  For something like McDonald's what's the point of tracking a click? Few will click and it's not like you can order a Big Mac and fries online. They'll most likely track it to some type of in-store sales/visit number based on where they have targeted the ads.

epalmer 11y ago

I was able to read the article with uBlock Origin enabled without a problem. But I agree with you: >The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

jakobegger 11y ago

I didn't even bother trying to disable my ad blocker, I just closed the tab. I don't want to look at websites with ads. If the only way to view a website is with ads, I'd rather not view the website at all.

ianlevesque 11y ago
And you didn't miss anything. A useless fluff piece promoting their social network builder.
- progressive_dad 11y ago
  I for one encourage our new adblock paywall overlords. To extrapolate this idea further... How much more blatant could you be in saying, "To us, the ads are more important than the content." Which inevitably progresses toward better ads and worse content... It is a perverse thing to do, but a useful filter bubble imposed by the content providers themselves. Likely far more accurate than my own ability to judge the quality of the content in the long term in most cases.

eveningcoffee 11y ago

$1 per week is not acceptable amount for accessing random Wired content (that would be $52 a year). Perhpas $0.1 a week, or even $0.01 per week. Or small amount per view (for example $0.01 or even lower, much lower amount), but, the big but, this would considerably put peoples privacy into risk and this would contradict the use case of many ad block users. So here is the deal Wired - you implement an anonymous payment network and you stop sending data to Google, Facebook and others, or people would just stop visiting your site. Well, this is my prediction and time will tell how much truth is there in it.

TheOtherHobbes 11y ago
I'm looking forward to the day one of the world's oldest and most annoying web magazines falls off the web because it doesn't understand the web any more.

a_imho 11y ago

They really are going too far. IANAL, but I think CFAA [1] applies to trying to detect what setup I'm running. Also, I suggest using the term content blocker, guess it creates less of an attack surface for pro advertisers. Plug: I strongly encourage disclaimers like [2] "Don't forget to turn on your content blockers, linked sites might not respect your privacy" [1]http://blog.erratasec.com/2012/11/you-are-committing-crime-right-now.html http://blog.erratasec.com/2012/11/you-are-committing-crime-r... [2]https://anonimho.com/about.html https://anonimho.com/about.html

kecks 11y ago

I don't have this problem, I got a perfectly clean page without any ads or social media icons. I'm running the latest Chrome with uBlock Origin (bunch of filters incl. privacy, social and anti-anti-adblock) and Ghostery. I don't know why you're having this problem, maybe try adding a few blocklists?

ncphillips 11y ago

Click the link and then as soon as the page article is loaded hit the Stop button in browser. Prevents the Disable Ad-block page form opening up.

NoGravitas 11y ago

Huh. I guess my anti-anti-adblocker is working better than yours. I didn't get that screen. Running uBlock Origin in Medium Mode.

hrvbr 11y ago

For this kind of anti-adblocking that loads the full page before hiding it, we can just display and read the full page with the "article view" feature. I use the Clearly extention for that because Firefox's native version is rarely available. But yes, it's a very bad business practice to give the middle finger to those interested in your products, even if you can't monetize their presence yet.

pfooti 11y ago

FWIW, I have ghostery (36 trackers blocked on the parent) and am able to see the post content. So it may be some configuration problem on your end.

RUG3Y 11y ago

Yes, I saw that the article is on Wired, and I decided not to click on it. That's where the adblock wars will lead, imo.

anonymouscow0 11y ago

Downloading PDFs from random people on the Internet might not be the best idea but I printed the article: https://mega.nz/#!yZ1g3a7I!abyz-XGGRPZ3sdkDW0CulmKRA8NGFKSHdnOb5tRuwwQ https://mega.nz/#!yZ1g3a7I!abyz-XGGRPZ3sdkDW0CulmKRA8NGFKSHd... I've been doing that a lot, printing to PDF, is it bad? I'm not sure I went as far to go into an "anonymous" account here.

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j_s 11y ago

When I hit Wired and their ad-block detection I do a select all, copy and paste into a text editor... wonder how long it will take them to block this work-around!

fredleblanc 11y ago

If it helps, I use Disconnect, uBlock Origin, and Privacy Badger as my blocking solutions, and although they blocked a ton of stuff, I didn't get harassed about ad-block and could see the whole page. This time.

simonebrunozzi 11y ago

It's yet another sign of a growing crisis. What will happen next?