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I hope this isn't China what with their recent land grab in the pacific [1]. [1]: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/us-issues-strong-warning-to-chin

by dev1n 11y ago

I hope this isn't China what with their recent land grab in the pacific [1]. [1]: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/us-issues-strong-warning-to-china-over-land-grab-island-in-south-china-sea-10286206.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/us-issues-stron...

Terr_ 11y ago
I wonder if any countries have "just in case" sabotage-devices near the the undersea cables of possible enemies..
- bigiain 11y ago
  I sometimes wonder how many countries _don't_. (Both the ability to destroy cables moving data for "possible enemies" who are other countries, as well as for "possible enemies" who are their own citizens...)
- couchdive 11y ago
  Undersea, on land, and outerspace, oh yeah. Rumors abound of anti satellite/satellites (DS-P1-M and IS Satellites) and I think Russia, china, and the US have destroyed satellites with rockets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-satellite_weapon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-satellite_weapon We have tinsel cluster bombs for power plants on land (BLU-114/b) https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/blu-114.htm https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/blu-114.htm And undersea tapping is being done: http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/07/19/how-the-nsa-taps-undersea-fiber-optic-cables/ http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/07/19/how-the-nsa-taps-und...
- Phlarp 11y ago
  or a fleet of submarines that run around tapping them...?
  - Terr_ 11y ago
    If you've installed a tap, it can just as easily be a tap with a limited self-destruct (for deniability) and/or a bomb (for sabotage.)
    - Phlarp 11y ago
      The point is that the comm lines are more valuable as an intelligence asset than they are as a strategic target.
- bendykstra 11y ago
  I'm sure that you're right. One of the first actions by Britain at the start of WWI was to cut Germany's undersea telegraph cables. (Except for one which was under Britain's control. Germany ill-advisedly continued to send messages using this cable, confident in their encryption techniques. This led to the interception of the Zimmerman telegram which contributed to the United States' entry into the war.)

by dev1n 11y ago

Terr_ 11y ago

I wonder if any countries have "just in case" sabotage-devices near the the undersea cables of possible enemies..

bigiain 11y ago
I sometimes wonder how many countries _don't_. (Both the ability to destroy cables moving data for "possible enemies" who are other countries, as well as for "possible enemies" who are their own citizens...)
couchdive 11y ago
Undersea, on land, and outerspace, oh yeah. Rumors abound of anti satellite/satellites (DS-P1-M and IS Satellites) and I think Russia, china, and the US have destroyed satellites with rockets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-satellite_weapon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-satellite_weapon We have tinsel cluster bombs for power plants on land (BLU-114/b) https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/blu-114.htm https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/blu-114.htm And undersea tapping is being done: http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/07/19/how-the-nsa-taps-undersea-fiber-optic-cables/ http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/07/19/how-the-nsa-taps-und...
Phlarp 11y ago
or a fleet of submarines that run around tapping them...?
- Terr_ 11y ago
  If you've installed a tap, it can just as easily be a tap with a limited self-destruct (for deniability) and/or a bomb (for sabotage.)
  - Phlarp 11y ago
    The point is that the comm lines are more valuable as an intelligence asset than they are as a strategic target.
bendykstra 11y ago
I'm sure that you're right. One of the first actions by Britain at the start of WWI was to cut Germany's undersea telegraph cables. (Except for one which was under Britain's control. Germany ill-advisedly continued to send messages using this cable, confident in their encryption techniques. This led to the interception of the Zimmerman telegram which contributed to the United States' entry into the war.)