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Or fish, which is basically zsh with sane defaults.

by aerique 11y ago

burke 11y ago
And a completely incompatible non-POSIX syntax, which sounds great in theory but isn't nearly enough better to justify the departure IMHO.
- massysett 11y ago
  Why does compatibility matter? If you have a script written for sh or bash it will just run using that interpreter.
  - xaduha 11y ago
    There are http://www.commandlinefu.com http://www.commandlinefu.com and the like. I copy and paste stuff from the web into the shell occasionally, I'm sure everyone does. I do use fish, but it is annoying sometimes, it's missing the most basic stuff like backticks. So much so that I think I'm going to stop.
    - waxjar 11y ago
      I'm sure you know this, but it's not missing that feature. It's just that the syntax is different.
  - stormbeta 11y ago
    For starters, any utilities based on sourcing won't work, such as nvm/rbenv/etc. That's technically true for zsh in cases, but it's far easier to port or add compatibility for zsh than fish.
    - freddie_mercury 11y ago
      You can use bass which solves this problem without porting the script to fish: https://github.com/edc/bass https://github.com/edc/bass
SoMuchToGrok 11y ago
Minus it being bash-compliant. Deal breaker for most.
coldtea 11y ago
Or bash, since it will be installed everywhere, you don't have to get it, and most scripts you'll find online will work on it.
- MikeKusold 11y ago
  This is a non-issue. The `!#/bin/bash` at the top of scripts will tell the interpreter which shell to run. And any one liner I've found online for bash has also worked on zsh (for me), but even if it didn't: `bash -c ls`
  - aerique 11y ago
    Yes exactly. Today I learned people actually write / use scripts without specifying the interpreter at the top of the script. This is like writing a Ruby script and expecting it to work when calling it with the Python interpreter.
- jlgaddis 11y ago
  Yeah, it's actually not installed everywhere (e.g. FreeBSD).
  - coldtea 11y ago
    Anywhere that matters. Besides, still more places than fish or zsh.

Or fish, which is basically zsh with sane defaults.

by aerique 11y ago

Or fish, which is basically zsh with sane defaults.

burke 11y ago

And a completely incompatible non-POSIX syntax, which sounds great in theory but isn't nearly enough better to justify the departure IMHO.

massysett 11y ago
Why does compatibility matter? If you have a script written for sh or bash it will just run using that interpreter.
- xaduha 11y ago
  There are http://www.commandlinefu.com http://www.commandlinefu.com and the like. I copy and paste stuff from the web into the shell occasionally, I'm sure everyone does. I do use fish, but it is annoying sometimes, it's missing the most basic stuff like backticks. So much so that I think I'm going to stop.
  - waxjar 11y ago
    I'm sure you know this, but it's not missing that feature. It's just that the syntax is different.
- stormbeta 11y ago
  For starters, any utilities based on sourcing won't work, such as nvm/rbenv/etc. That's technically true for zsh in cases, but it's far easier to port or add compatibility for zsh than fish.
  - freddie_mercury 11y ago
    You can use bass which solves this problem without porting the script to fish: https://github.com/edc/bass https://github.com/edc/bass

SoMuchToGrok 11y ago

Minus it being bash-compliant. Deal breaker for most.

coldtea 11y ago

Or bash, since it will be installed everywhere, you don't have to get it, and most scripts you'll find online will work on it.

MikeKusold 11y ago
This is a non-issue. The `!#/bin/bash` at the top of scripts will tell the interpreter which shell to run. And any one liner I've found online for bash has also worked on zsh (for me), but even if it didn't: `bash -c ls`
- aerique 11y ago
  Yes exactly. Today I learned people actually write / use scripts without specifying the interpreter at the top of the script. This is like writing a Ruby script and expecting it to work when calling it with the Python interpreter.
jlgaddis 11y ago
Yeah, it's actually not installed everywhere (e.g. FreeBSD).
- coldtea 11y ago
  Anywhere that matters. Besides, still more places than fish or zsh.