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At that point, why not just buy a gun and start going to a shooting range? Most US jurisdictions have a legal framework that enables you to kill others in self-

by ryanlol 11y ago

At that point, why not just buy a gun and start going to a shooting range? Most US jurisdictions have a legal framework that enables you to kill others in self-defense. I don't personally believe that anyone should have to do this, but I also believe that if you feel sufficiently threatened it'd be silly to ignore your legal right to self-defense.

hga 11y ago
Most US jurisdictions have a legal framework that enables you to kill others in self-defense. ALL US jurisdictions have such a framework, although a 7 plus D.C. make it impractical to use by mostly not allowing concealed carry, and a subset of them have a duty to retreat which will likely get you crucified later in court (e.g. Maryland and at times, even in your home, Massachusetts). The author is said to live in New York, which is all but no possession let alone no issue in NYC, and may issue, sometimes liberally upstate, so she probably can't take your advice. ADDED: And it still won't stop the cyberstalking, just give her a backstop if it goes "real world".
- ryanlol 11y ago
  I wasn't talking about the article, but responding to btillys comment and btilly never clarified the jurisdiction where the events he was describing took place. I do think that the ability to defend yourself would be of great help if you're faced with a serious threat of physical violence, as seemed to be the case in the situation btilly described. > a subset of them have a duty to retreat which will likely get you crucified later in court This is what I was referring to with "most".
untothebreach 11y ago
Any decent self-defense instructor will tell you that the best way to win a fight is to not get into a fight at all. So why do something to encourage violence? Let's say you do get a gun, you go to a shooting range, you get good at shooting it. Who's to say that, when the stalker shows up at your door, you're going to be able to pull the trigger? Taking a life is not an easy thing to do, and in the "heat of the moment" some people can be unwilling to do it, even when doing so would save themselves from harm.
- ryanlol 11y ago
  >Any decent self-defense instructor will tell you that the best way to win a fight is to not get into a fight at all. So why do something to encourage violence? Read the comment I was responding to, supposedly the FBI suggested that getting a restraining order would significantly increase the risk of a murder-suicide. Is the right approach there to avoid the restraining order to not encourage violence? I think not. >Taking a life is not an easy thing to do, and in the "heat of the moment" some people can be unwilling to do it, even when doing so would save themselves from harm. I absolutely agree, but what's the alternative here? Not getting a restraining order? Hoping that the cops will get there in time if something happens? It seems to me that at that point you really wouldn't be left with much of a choice, besides just accepting the harassment and living with it.
st3v3r 11y ago
Or, they could throw the asshole in jail, and be done with the whole thing.

by ryanlol 11y ago

hga 11y ago

Most US jurisdictions have a legal framework that enables you to kill others in self-defense. ALL US jurisdictions have such a framework, although a 7 plus D.C. make it impractical to use by mostly not allowing concealed carry, and a subset of them have a duty to retreat which will likely get you crucified later in court (e.g. Maryland and at times, even in your home, Massachusetts). The author is said to live in New York, which is all but no possession let alone no issue in NYC, and may issue, sometimes liberally upstate, so she probably can't take your advice. ADDED: And it still won't stop the cyberstalking, just give her a backstop if it goes "real world".

ryanlol 11y ago
I wasn't talking about the article, but responding to btillys comment and btilly never clarified the jurisdiction where the events he was describing took place. I do think that the ability to defend yourself would be of great help if you're faced with a serious threat of physical violence, as seemed to be the case in the situation btilly described. > a subset of them have a duty to retreat which will likely get you crucified later in court This is what I was referring to with "most".

untothebreach 11y ago

Any decent self-defense instructor will tell you that the best way to win a fight is to not get into a fight at all. So why do something to encourage violence? Let's say you do get a gun, you go to a shooting range, you get good at shooting it. Who's to say that, when the stalker shows up at your door, you're going to be able to pull the trigger? Taking a life is not an easy thing to do, and in the "heat of the moment" some people can be unwilling to do it, even when doing so would save themselves from harm.

ryanlol 11y ago
>Any decent self-defense instructor will tell you that the best way to win a fight is to not get into a fight at all. So why do something to encourage violence? Read the comment I was responding to, supposedly the FBI suggested that getting a restraining order would significantly increase the risk of a murder-suicide. Is the right approach there to avoid the restraining order to not encourage violence? I think not. >Taking a life is not an easy thing to do, and in the "heat of the moment" some people can be unwilling to do it, even when doing so would save themselves from harm. I absolutely agree, but what's the alternative here? Not getting a restraining order? Hoping that the cops will get there in time if something happens? It seems to me that at that point you really wouldn't be left with much of a choice, besides just accepting the harassment and living with it.

st3v3r 11y ago

Or, they could throw the asshole in jail, and be done with the whole thing.