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>If her local police was ignorant of actual laws applying to her case, as she indicated, couldn't she just tell the officers under which exact laws she is makin

by na85 11y ago

>If her local police was ignorant of actual laws applying to her case, as she indicated, couldn't she just tell the officers under which exact laws she is making a complaint? To me at least it's been conclusively demonstrated that 60-90% of police are completely incompetent. I would not trust them to do the right thing even if you mentioned the law.

chris_wot 11y ago
I don't know how it works in the U.S. but in Australia I had a situation where someone bumped into my mother on the road and intimidated her as she went down the highway. My mother noted the time, the license plate number and ensured she called the Police Assistance Line we have, after he passed her by. They referred her to her local police station. She went to see them the next morning, but the Officer on Duty refused point blank to file a statement. She later went back, and the same Office on Duty again refused to file a statement. So did his supervisor. I knew this was a crime, so I did the following: 1. I called back the Police Assistance Line and explained that my mother had been intimidated on the road. I explained the situation and asked if the police were meant to look into the matter. The Police Assistance line operator, whose details I took, advised me it is against the law and should be followed up. 2. I called the local police station and explained to the person on the line that my mother had had someone bump into her on the highway, and she was intimidated. I asked if this was something that was allowed, and the police officer explained to me that actually, this was something that should be looked into. 3. I then explained to the police officer that my mother had already tried to have a statement taken twice already, but it was declined each time and the supervisor would not go ahead with it either. I asked to speak to the duty sergeant. 4. The duty sergeant, after I explained the situation to him again, sounded very sheepish and promised to look into the matter. The Police finally took a statement. Now if that had been me, I would have taken matters further and lodged a complaint with the Ombudsman. I very much think that police need to learn that a. they aren't lawyers, and they don't know the law even though many of them think they do, and b. they also need to know that if they literally stop others from reporting crimes (not even the point of acting on crimes, reporting of a crimes) then they will be buried in paperwork because of their jerkish behaviour.
- kaitai 11y ago
  Are you a guy? It might have something to do with the different response.
  - chris_wot 11y ago
    Dunno why you got downvoted, that's a valid response. Yeah, I'm a guy and yes, it did occur to me that might have been part of the reason I got a different response.
briandear 11y ago
60-90% Completely incompetent? Any data to back that rather specific percentage claim or do you just hate cops and thus feel free to make unsupported assertions? I am not disputing or even proposing a number of my own, but then again, I'm not looking at the objective data you apparently have.

by na85 11y ago

chris_wot 11y ago

I don't know how it works in the U.S. but in Australia I had a situation where someone bumped into my mother on the road and intimidated her as she went down the highway. My mother noted the time, the license plate number and ensured she called the Police Assistance Line we have, after he passed her by. They referred her to her local police station. She went to see them the next morning, but the Officer on Duty refused point blank to file a statement. She later went back, and the same Office on Duty again refused to file a statement. So did his supervisor. I knew this was a crime, so I did the following: 1. I called back the Police Assistance Line and explained that my mother had been intimidated on the road. I explained the situation and asked if the police were meant to look into the matter. The Police Assistance line operator, whose details I took, advised me it is against the law and should be followed up. 2. I called the local police station and explained to the person on the line that my mother had had someone bump into her on the highway, and she was intimidated. I asked if this was something that was allowed, and the police officer explained to me that actually, this was something that should be looked into. 3. I then explained to the police officer that my mother had already tried to have a statement taken twice already, but it was declined each time and the supervisor would not go ahead with it either. I asked to speak to the duty sergeant. 4. The duty sergeant, after I explained the situation to him again, sounded very sheepish and promised to look into the matter. The Police finally took a statement. Now if that had been me, I would have taken matters further and lodged a complaint with the Ombudsman. I very much think that police need to learn that a. they aren't lawyers, and they don't know the law even though many of them think they do, and b. they also need to know that if they literally stop others from reporting crimes (not even the point of acting on crimes, reporting of a crimes) then they will be buried in paperwork because of their jerkish behaviour.

kaitai 11y ago
Are you a guy? It might have something to do with the different response.
- chris_wot 11y ago
  Dunno why you got downvoted, that's a valid response. Yeah, I'm a guy and yes, it did occur to me that might have been part of the reason I got a different response.

briandear 11y ago

60-90% Completely incompetent? Any data to back that rather specific percentage claim or do you just hate cops and thus feel free to make unsupported assertions? I am not disputing or even proposing a number of my own, but then again, I'm not looking at the objective data you apparently have.