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Am I the only one who feels like they should stick with what they're good at? Don't add too many features, bells, and whistles. Just keep building the core prod
by rocky1138 11y ago
Am I the only one who feels like they should stick with what they're good at? Don't add too many features, bells, and whistles. Just keep building the core product.
- cloverich 11y agoI had the opposite thought -- its such a simple next step (at least, basic video chat integration is really simple with webrtc) I was wondering what they were waiting for. Without it, the door is wide open for a competitor to come in and be Slack + (on demand) Video Chat.
- taneq 11y agoWhat's that fallacy called which leads us to assume that other peoples' jobs are easy? If there are a few major players in an area and all of their offerings are terrible, is it more reasonable to conclude that they just all suck despite somehow being major players, or to conclude that it's actually a much harder problem than you think?
- MAGZine 11y agoIt's much harder to innovate than it is to copy someone's innovation. Now that Slack has pioneered good UX in the space, it's easy to rip off.
- cloverich 11y agoI only meant its an obvious next step, and until they close that loop the door is wide open for competitors. Once they do close that loop, the door becomes tiny. The only easy part would be doing a basic webrtc implementation (as they are using Chrome via Electron, and hence get the vast majority of that implementation for free). For reference, my last job was working on a web based webrtc video conferencing app in a lead role at one of the major video conferencing companies.
- tommoor 11y agoAlthough simple from a product roadmap pov it's incredibly difficult from a technical pov - no doubt the reason that they acquired a great team a year and we've still seen nothing released. It also requires a completely different set of knowledge and expertise to websockets/rest.
- michaelt 11y agoits such a simple next step (at least, basic video chat integration is really simple with webrtc) Said like someone who's barely used videoconferencing software! Having tried systems with built in video chat, Skype, Hangouts, Facetime, Radvision and Scopia I can tell you they all suck - and none of them give you the diagnostic information to tell /why/ they're broken. In the past year I've seen echos that come and go, sound problems that are present in group calls but not individual calls, pages that work in Chrome but not Firefox, temporarily losing video or audio with no helpful diagnostic information, dropped calls with no helpful diagnostic information, people being unable to join group calls with no helpful diagnostic information, browser plugin problems with no helpful diagnostic information, problems reconnecting dropped connections with no helpful diagnostic information, users being unable to hot-plug their camera while a call is in progress, mobile apps only finding the rear-facing camera, users having to log out on android so the call will ring on their computer, nonexistent or out-of-date Linux clients, nonexistent Windows clients, and crap video quality even when users are on high-bandwidth connections that can easily stream 4k netflix. I wish it was simple to make a decent video conferencing system, then someone might have done it.
- savanaly 11y agoHe didn't mean it would be simple to implement. He meant the reasons for why Slack should include it are so numerous that it is easy and "simple" to make a case that Slack should implement it right away.
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- Washuu 11y agoI would like it if they fixed all the bugs and usability issues with the core chat functionality first. They are trying hard to be a good IRC client, but failing at it in fundamental ways.
- simonswords82 11y agoI'm a fairly heavy Slack user and haven't found any bugs in it. Interested to hear what issues you've discovered that they haven't fixed?