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innocence is brilliant one of those rare occasions where the sequel is just as good as the original but for completely different reasons > I don't have any id
by justifier 11y ago
innocence is brilliant
one of those rare occasions where the sequel is just as good as the original but for completely different reasons
> I don't have any idea of what it was trying to say.
i am guessing this is in response to the way the characters have entire conversations with only referencing abstract quotes.. and to this i have to say i like this kind of dialogue
if you do too, i would recommend the mid century new wave, specifically jean luc godard.. there is a sac episode in homage to him as well so perhaps my seeing similarities is more than coincidence.. stuff like pierrot le fou and notre musique are heavy with these quotation dialogues
if you dislike this sort of writing style, may i suggest some ways to enjoy it more:
you could watch the film like you would read a book, maybe a chapter a night spread out over a few nights to give you time to digest your mind's philosophical ramblings, and allow you to flip back and forth to track context
also, or, you could get a list of all of the quotes used in the film from their original authors and read them, considering their meanings, before watching the film
it can be frustrating to try to keep up with abstract concepts and poetic structures when you have the time frame subtitles afford
by reading the quotes before hand you will recognise immediately what is being said and be able to consider the context of your understanding of its meaning within its placement in the film
having one character dismiss another by answering a question using a quote from a 19 century poet, then later have another character, absent from the original scene implying omnipresence, recycle that quote in a completely different context and then also finish the rest of the quote altering its meaning is masterful writing
spoilers from the original 1995 film ahead:
it is rare to see someone take something as brilliant and successful as the 1995 ghost and decide to make a sequel completely abandoning the original's main character and themes to focus the main thread on a support character from the original
innocence is the story of how those left behind deal when a respected person leaves and how that void pulls all of them around
batou in innocence is a different batou from gits, in the absence of the major he begins to take on the inquisition that made the major so powerful, and this worries everyone else in the same way batou was worried about the major in gits
batou's mirroring of the major's personality is only able to be relieved to his own personality again due to the event at the end of the film
what oshii did with innocence is commendable
i think all of the ghost material is masterful and great fodder for staring out of windows
"mirrors are meant to be looked down on; stead looked into" .Ryokuu Saitou