4 ms·
Seattle and SF are way beyond Vancouver's unaffordability ratio. Vancouver is cheap.
by sterl 11y ago
Seattle and SF are way beyond Vancouver's unaffordability ratio. Vancouver is cheap.
- aianus 11y agoSoftware Engineers in Vancouver make ~US$45,000 a year... It's much, much less affordable there than Seattle or SF, trust me.
- neptunespear 11y ago> Software Engineers in Vancouver make ~US$45,000 a year... Which is $60K CAD. If you get roommates, rent can be $600-1000 (again, CAD)/month. Health insurance is $72/month, single-payer, and increasingly being 100% covered by tech companies. You don't have to worry about a car if you live downtown, and transit is good enough that living downtown isn't your only option if you don't want a hellish commute. (e.g. Hastings-Sunrise, Metrotown, New West)
- aianus 11y agoIf you get roommates your rent in SF will be ~$2800 CAD, meanwhile you're earning $220,000 CAD a year and your other expenses are pretty much the same as Vancouver. No way Vancouver is more affordable than SF (if you have to work in tech for a living).
- sterl 11y agoWhere in Vancouver are you making $45K? I have dozens of companies on file that are seeking engineers in the 80-110K range.
- jorgecurio 11y agopay is shit in Vancouver especially now due to USDCAD rates. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18UwaThgGikSXzinnLNHx7P3_HQSenggWbV262_UmuTk https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18UwaThgGikSXzinnLNHx...
- sterl 11y agoYour table is conveniently lacking the salary ranges I've been offered from over a dozen higher paying companies in the city... In fact, not a single company that pays well whom I've talked to is on your list other than Amazon and Microsoft (Whom will pay a whole lot more if you point the spread out to them).
- neptunespear 11y agoI am the original creator of the spreadsheet. Proof: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18UwaThgGikSXzinnLNHx7P3_HQSenggWbV262_UmuTk/edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18UwaThgGikSXzinnLNHx... I am planning on converting this data to website that will keep track of what tech employers are in the city. Kind of like HackerBatch but just listing companies, not delivering job postings. (Also, it will be available to the public, not just UBC/SFU students. You won't have to get 50 students from your school to sign up like with HackerBatch, either.) For the moment, I'm protecting the sheet so I have a stable source from which to work. Stay tuned...
- refurb 11y agoThat's not true at all. Vancouver housing prices aren't that far off from SF and the mean salary is about 1/3rd lower than SF.
- pcthrowaway 11y agoThe housing cost is only comparable to SF for homeowners. Renting is still nearly an order of magnitude cheaper.
- Tiktaalik 11y agoDepends on what you're talking about. Vancouver has cheap rent compared to SF rents, but houses are more expensive than SF and Vancouver wages are no where close to what people in SF are paid. It is one of the most unaffordable cities in the world in that regard.
- gdilla 11y agoAlso there are relatively no jobs in Vancouver. Just a bunch of condos.
- sterl 11y agoEveryone that replied to me is running off of 4 year old data. None of you have any clue what you're talking about. Heck, just check Angel.co and notice most engineering jobs are >= 100K... and that's just tiny startups kicking off.