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Programming with an inflated salary.

by Fluid_Mechanics 11y ago

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muzz 11y ago
You mean market-based salaries
- hendzen 11y ago
  How about programming with a market-based salary in an inflated market?
bdcravens 11y ago
Does this really exist? If a company could meet the need cheaper, wouldn't they? Instead, you're either referring to using the wrong tool, and hence a high salary, or you're being relative to a given location. If that's the case, then pretty much everyone's salary is inflated, since there's certainly someone in the world who will do the job for $20k USD.
- askafriend 11y ago
  It's useless trying to talk sense into someone who clearly has a deep sense of resentment.
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jnbiche 11y ago
You realize that that sweet $140,000 Silicon Valley base salary at FaceGoogBox is worth less than that very middle class $80,000 in Atlanta, once you adjust for cost of living, right? If you want to buy a house, it's more like $40,000 in downtown Atlanta. It ain't poverty, but no one's getting dirty rich off of that kind of salary, either. Is someone making $80,000 for doing 60 hours a week of highly-skilled, highly-profit-bearing work "overpaid". In my opinion, that's underpaid. If anything, we've seen recent evidence that SV salaries are "deflated" compared to other industries and areas of the country, due to collusion, frequent targeted hiring of very young, often naive grad, inflated time at work, etc. I don't work in SV, for the reasons I outlined above, so this isn't some kind of self-justification. Edit: To be clear, I don't disapprove of people working there, I know it's beautiful and a nice place to live. I'm actually defending SV engineers from accusations of "inflated" salaries. It's just not a good place to go to get rich as an engineer with a family.
- bitwarrior 11y ago
  According to Wolfram Alpha, $140,000 is equivalent to $85,000 in Atlanta, once you've adjusted for the cost of living. https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=$140000+in+San+Francisco+versus+Atlanta https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=$140000+in+San+Francis...
  - chejazi 11y ago
    Wolfram Alpha needs better marketing. This tool is amazing.
    - rtkwe 11y ago
      I wish I could figure out how to get it to run each statement in parenthesis as a separate statement then combine them. A lot of time when I'm trying to combine a lot of different values it'll get confused and just evaluate one of them individually. Same thing with happens with units sometimes. Maybe I'm just not writing my queries just right but it's my major pain point with Wolfram Alpha.
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- GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
  "Not living in Georgia" is worth a premium.
  - serge2k 11y ago
    I agree, no offense to anyone who loves Georgia. SF is too expensive though. I like Seattle just fine.
- acchow 11y ago
  > You realize that that sweet $140,000 Silicon Valley base salary at FaceGoogBox is worth less than that very middle class $80,000 in Atlanta, once you adjust for cost of living, right? You're ignoring equity here, which after a couple years will be more than your base salary anyway. With a total comp of $300k+, a lot SV workers don't mind paying $30k/year more in rent to live in the Bay Area. As many others have noted, it really is beautiful here...

Programming with an inflated salary.

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muzz 11y ago

You mean market-based salaries

hendzen 11y ago
How about programming with a market-based salary in an inflated market?

bdcravens 11y ago

Does this really exist? If a company could meet the need cheaper, wouldn't they? Instead, you're either referring to using the wrong tool, and hence a high salary, or you're being relative to a given location. If that's the case, then pretty much everyone's salary is inflated, since there's certainly someone in the world who will do the job for $20k USD.

askafriend 11y ago
It's useless trying to talk sense into someone who clearly has a deep sense of resentment.

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jnbiche 11y ago

You realize that that sweet $140,000 Silicon Valley base salary at FaceGoogBox is worth less than that very middle class $80,000 in Atlanta, once you adjust for cost of living, right? If you want to buy a house, it's more like $40,000 in downtown Atlanta. It ain't poverty, but no one's getting dirty rich off of that kind of salary, either. Is someone making $80,000 for doing 60 hours a week of highly-skilled, highly-profit-bearing work "overpaid". In my opinion, that's underpaid. If anything, we've seen recent evidence that SV salaries are "deflated" compared to other industries and areas of the country, due to collusion, frequent targeted hiring of very young, often naive grad, inflated time at work, etc. I don't work in SV, for the reasons I outlined above, so this isn't some kind of self-justification. Edit: To be clear, I don't disapprove of people working there, I know it's beautiful and a nice place to live. I'm actually defending SV engineers from accusations of "inflated" salaries. It's just not a good place to go to get rich as an engineer with a family.

bitwarrior 11y ago
According to Wolfram Alpha, $140,000 is equivalent to $85,000 in Atlanta, once you've adjusted for the cost of living. https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=$140000+in+San+Francisco+versus+Atlanta https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=$140000+in+San+Francis...
- chejazi 11y ago
  Wolfram Alpha needs better marketing. This tool is amazing.
  - rtkwe 11y ago
    I wish I could figure out how to get it to run each statement in parenthesis as a separate statement then combine them. A lot of time when I'm trying to combine a lot of different values it'll get confused and just evaluate one of them individually. Same thing with happens with units sometimes. Maybe I'm just not writing my queries just right but it's my major pain point with Wolfram Alpha.
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GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
"Not living in Georgia" is worth a premium.
- serge2k 11y ago
  I agree, no offense to anyone who loves Georgia. SF is too expensive though. I like Seattle just fine.
acchow 11y ago
> You realize that that sweet $140,000 Silicon Valley base salary at FaceGoogBox is worth less than that very middle class $80,000 in Atlanta, once you adjust for cost of living, right? You're ignoring equity here, which after a couple years will be more than your base salary anyway. With a total comp of $300k+, a lot SV workers don't mind paying $30k/year more in rent to live in the Bay Area. As many others have noted, it really is beautiful here...