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Please define Silicon Valley style programming?
by smrtinsert 11y ago
Please define Silicon Valley style programming?
- Fluid_Mechanics 11y agoProgramming with an inflated salary.
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- muzz 11y agoYou mean market-based salaries
- hendzen 11y agoHow about programming with a market-based salary in an inflated market?
- bdcravens 11y agoDoes this really exist? If a company could meet the need cheaper, wouldn't they? Instead, you're either referring to using the wrong tool, and hence a high salary, or you're being relative to a given location. If that's the case, then pretty much everyone's salary is inflated, since there's certainly someone in the world who will do the job for $20k USD.
- askafriend 11y agoIt's useless trying to talk sense into someone who clearly has a deep sense of resentment.
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- jnbiche 11y agoYou realize that that sweet $140,000 Silicon Valley base salary at FaceGoogBox is worth less than that very middle class $80,000 in Atlanta, once you adjust for cost of living, right? If you want to buy a house, it's more like $40,000 in downtown Atlanta. It ain't poverty, but no one's getting dirty rich off of that kind of salary, either. Is someone making $80,000 for doing 60 hours a week of highly-skilled, highly-profit-bearing work "overpaid". In my opinion, that's underpaid. If anything, we've seen recent evidence that SV salaries are "deflated" compared to other industries and areas of the country, due to collusion, frequent targeted hiring of very young, often naive grad, inflated time at work, etc. I don't work in SV, for the reasons I outlined above, so this isn't some kind of self-justification. Edit: To be clear, I don't disapprove of people working there, I know it's beautiful and a nice place to live. I'm actually defending SV engineers from accusations of "inflated" salaries. It's just not a good place to go to get rich as an engineer with a family.
- bitwarrior 11y agoAccording to Wolfram Alpha, $140,000 is equivalent to $85,000 in Atlanta, once you've adjusted for the cost of living. https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=$140000+in+San+Francisco+versus+Atlanta https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=$140000+in+San+Francis...
- chejazi 11y agoWolfram Alpha needs better marketing. This tool is amazing.
- rtkwe 11y agoI wish I could figure out how to get it to run each statement in parenthesis as a separate statement then combine them. A lot of time when I'm trying to combine a lot of different values it'll get confused and just evaluate one of them individually. Same thing with happens with units sometimes. Maybe I'm just not writing my queries just right but it's my major pain point with Wolfram Alpha.
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- zellyn 11y agoI was afraid I'd end up in a corporate IT department in a big company that does something other than technology as its main thing. In Mikey Dickerson's talks about fixing Healthcare.gov he talks about two strains of programming: that descended from a more engineering mindset, and that descended from the IT department. (I'm paraphrasing badly: I'll try to find a better link when I have more time.) I guess I was using "Silicon Valley" as shorthand for the former.
- jerf 11y agoIf at all possible, you want to work where you're a net benefit and somehow directly visibly producing output the company is selling, not where you're a net cost. Note how the word "computer" doesn't appear in that sentence; it's not unique to computer programming.
- loopbit 11y agoSaid in traditional business-speak: Work in a profit center, not in a cost center.
- Toenex 11y agoThats a really nice way to phrase a sentiment I, and I would guess many other HN'ers have long felt.
- zellyn 11y agoI'm on the Shared Systems team at Square, and was on Abuse prevention at YouTube, so I pretty much seem to only land in cost centers :-) But I get to build RPC services and other cool infrastructure in Go.
- lucaspiller 11y agoI work at an NGO that manages investment in farming. We have beuracracy bigger than most governments. Still get to write cool stuff in Go, Node, Elixir or whatever else takes my fancy and tinker with IoT hardware during work hours :-)
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- bdcravens 11y agoI suspect this refers to the languages and frameworks in vogue (Rails, Node, Angular/React/Ember), emphasis towards open source, and using Apple hardware. There's still a ton of work done in unsexy companies on Dells and HP using PHP/ColdFusion/.NET/etc.
- zellyn 11y agoNot at all. See my other comment.
- Godel_unicode 11y ago> ...unsexy companies.../.net... At unsexy companies, and at StackOverflow