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I prefer to let other than me use the 1st generation of any new technology. This way, I benefit from the improvment, and a lower price point.

by malka 11y ago

metafex 11y ago
The other side is the excitement of being one of the first experiencing this new technology. It's always a tradeoff. E.g.: Would you rather go to space now, or wait until it's easy and comfy? For me, curiosity wins.
- malka 11y ago
  It depends. From the point of view of a consumer ? easy and comfy wins. I would not pay to go in space now.
  - Zombieball 11y ago
    I'm not sure what this means? Even early adopters are "consumers". Just a different customer segment. One that places more value on the excitement of a new technology than comfort and cost.
    - malka 11y ago
      I meant that if I intented to work with VR, I would act differently, as I would see it as an investment, rather than a simple consumer item. As a consumer, I'd rather wait for the current gen to age a little, and buy it cheaper and with less bugs.
- return0 11y ago
  In 2016, going to space is no longer a novelty. Now, if you asked me if i want to be the first to hook my brain to a computer ...
  - majewsky 11y ago
    And be the first person in history to actually catch a computer virus? ;)
    - venomsnake 11y ago
      STD - serial transmitted disease.
    - tkinom 11y ago
      Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. :-)
  - burkaman 11y ago
    Only 536 people have ever been to space, I think it's still novel.
    - return0 11y ago
      I don't think history books remember "The 537th person to do X"
- cm2187 11y ago
  I'd rather wait until they have a good in-flight entertainment!
  - ChristianGeek 11y ago
    I can already picture some billionaire space traveler watching images of earth on the in-flight 4K monitor while the real thing floats by outside the window next to him.
    - cm2187 11y ago
      He won't be watching earth. He will be watching Justin Bieber singing "happy birthday Mr Prisident" to Donal Trump.
lanevorockz 11y ago
This reasoning that made innovation stall and VR is not an immature new tech. It was initially launched back in 2011, tendency is that you gonna get a very mature product out of the bet. If you haven't tried yet, the vive is quite impressive.
BuckRogers 11y ago
I understand the perspective but I think this is one of few situations where that perspective is wrong. Expecting a VR headset with roomspace support to ever be cheaper than a high-end single LCD like a ROG[0], then you'll be waiting a long time. At least until high end LCDs are driven lower and that's not even a 4K gaming LCD- the prices on those won't be lower than a HMD. There's amazing value in that $800 package and this is essentially 3rd gen in my book. Oculus Rift would be closer to 2nd gen and the 90s headsets were the 1st gen. As well as the price never dropping to something like $199 or $399 (without an inferior experience like GearVR)- if you're old enough to have owned a 3dfx Voodoo card in 1996, you'll know there will never be anything quite like the "1st gen" experience ever again. The magic isn't the same down the road. Even for people who are having THEIR first experience later on- because everyone else around them has done it. I'm sympathetic to the folks who don't want to or can't spend $800 on this, but I think this is one case where it's worth going in. [0]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236405&cm_re=asus_rog_lcd-_-24-236-405-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236...
- Karunamon 11y ago
  How do you figure that the Vive is a full generation ahead of the Rift? Just based on the fact that the Vive is targeted towards moving around (FPSes), and the Rift towards sitting in place (Vehicle sims)? Other than that one difference, both devices are very similar in their specs.
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    They both target the same type of games, the few room scale tracking games that are currently in the Steam Work Shop / SteamVR portfolio aren't exactly FPS games. Oculus is betting that most gamers would still prefer to sit down while playing and that roomscale tracking will be a novelty (which with the current limitations of Vive it is). This is pretty much the Wii vs Xbox360/PS3 type of control bet. The Wii did well but the best games for it were more or less the ones that used traditional controls, even the best first party games didn't really use the motion aspects of the Wii that much/at all. The Kinect and what ever the PS Eye camera thing was called also ended up as being niche products that didn't really managed to build a sustainable ecosystem. Oculus is betting that sitting / standing with limited movement will be the preferred gaming environment and I think they will be correct in that assumption.

I prefer to let other than me use the 1st generation of any new technology. This way, I benefit from the improvment, and a lower price point.

by malka 11y ago

I prefer to let other than me use the 1st generation of any new technology. This way, I benefit from the improvment, and a lower price point.

metafex 11y ago

The other side is the excitement of being one of the first experiencing this new technology. It's always a tradeoff. E.g.: Would you rather go to space now, or wait until it's easy and comfy? For me, curiosity wins.

malka 11y ago
It depends. From the point of view of a consumer ? easy and comfy wins. I would not pay to go in space now.
- Zombieball 11y ago
  I'm not sure what this means? Even early adopters are "consumers". Just a different customer segment. One that places more value on the excitement of a new technology than comfort and cost.
  - malka 11y ago
    I meant that if I intented to work with VR, I would act differently, as I would see it as an investment, rather than a simple consumer item. As a consumer, I'd rather wait for the current gen to age a little, and buy it cheaper and with less bugs.
return0 11y ago
In 2016, going to space is no longer a novelty. Now, if you asked me if i want to be the first to hook my brain to a computer ...
- majewsky 11y ago
  And be the first person in history to actually catch a computer virus? ;)
  - venomsnake 11y ago
    STD - serial transmitted disease.
  - tkinom 11y ago
    Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. :-)
- burkaman 11y ago
  Only 536 people have ever been to space, I think it's still novel.
  - return0 11y ago
    I don't think history books remember "The 537th person to do X"
cm2187 11y ago
I'd rather wait until they have a good in-flight entertainment!
- ChristianGeek 11y ago
  I can already picture some billionaire space traveler watching images of earth on the in-flight 4K monitor while the real thing floats by outside the window next to him.
  - cm2187 11y ago
    He won't be watching earth. He will be watching Justin Bieber singing "happy birthday Mr Prisident" to Donal Trump.

lanevorockz 11y ago

This reasoning that made innovation stall and VR is not an immature new tech. It was initially launched back in 2011, tendency is that you gonna get a very mature product out of the bet. If you haven't tried yet, the vive is quite impressive.

BuckRogers 11y ago

I understand the perspective but I think this is one of few situations where that perspective is wrong. Expecting a VR headset with roomspace support to ever be cheaper than a high-end single LCD like a ROG[0], then you'll be waiting a long time. At least until high end LCDs are driven lower and that's not even a 4K gaming LCD- the prices on those won't be lower than a HMD. There's amazing value in that $800 package and this is essentially 3rd gen in my book. Oculus Rift would be closer to 2nd gen and the 90s headsets were the 1st gen. As well as the price never dropping to something like $199 or $399 (without an inferior experience like GearVR)- if you're old enough to have owned a 3dfx Voodoo card in 1996, you'll know there will never be anything quite like the "1st gen" experience ever again. The magic isn't the same down the road. Even for people who are having THEIR first experience later on- because everyone else around them has done it. I'm sympathetic to the folks who don't want to or can't spend $800 on this, but I think this is one case where it's worth going in. [0]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236405&cm_re=asus_rog_lcd-_-24-236-405-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236...

Karunamon 11y ago
How do you figure that the Vive is a full generation ahead of the Rift? Just based on the fact that the Vive is targeted towards moving around (FPSes), and the Rift towards sitting in place (Vehicle sims)? Other than that one difference, both devices are very similar in their specs.
- dogma1138 11y ago
  They both target the same type of games, the few room scale tracking games that are currently in the Steam Work Shop / SteamVR portfolio aren't exactly FPS games. Oculus is betting that most gamers would still prefer to sit down while playing and that roomscale tracking will be a novelty (which with the current limitations of Vive it is). This is pretty much the Wii vs Xbox360/PS3 type of control bet. The Wii did well but the best games for it were more or less the ones that used traditional controls, even the best first party games didn't really use the motion aspects of the Wii that much/at all. The Kinect and what ever the PS Eye camera thing was called also ended up as being niche products that didn't really managed to build a sustainable ecosystem. Oculus is betting that sitting / standing with limited movement will be the preferred gaming environment and I think they will be correct in that assumption.