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"That's the huge unsolvable problem with this platform" Unsolvable problems tend to be unsolvable. I can solve this with three words: Use it inside. And on the

"That's the huge unsolvable problem with this platform" Unsolvable problems tend to be unsolvable. I can solve this with three words: Use it inside. And on the next version (which, let's be honest, they're targeting a "next version" for general release, not this one), they use lasers instead of IR. If you want to use it outside, it might be unsolvable for the current release, but it's hardly unsolvable for the platform.

kefka 11y ago
The IR emitted is a structured laser light at IR frequencies. They're already using "lasers". The problem with using any sort of structured light is that your frequency can't be in the same band of any sort of flood lights (sunlight, ballasts, IR camera lights). It's also why X-Rays work well: it's a structured light (kind of) and can be used because we won't have a flood of XRays everywhere. The problem isn't with "IR": they should not be using a structured light solution. It's just not durable enough for 3d scanning applications. It's also why I've worked on a SLAM-like 3d scanner. Understanding geometry, corners, edges, and gradients are much more versatile in scanning, because it is passive. Our very eyes don't send out beams of light, and yet we manage a very accurate SLAM-like map inside our own heads. The problem with the Hololens is that until they switch to a vision-only system, they're going to be plagued with problems regarding IR sources (or whatever freq they choose). Source: me (3Dollar scanner, amateur radio operator, OpenCV reprap implementer)
nurb 11y ago
"Use it inside" doesn't completely solve it, at least if you have windows inside. During my master internship at INRIA, a coworker had to put a tablecloth on his desk to be able to get a proper depth image with a Kinect. It turned out to be a small window, 5 meters away, reflecting on his desk. Indirect sun light was enough to mess up the projected pattern. So "Use it in a cave" can be a solution, but it's... less attractive. Funny fact is, Hololens doesn't work with windows.

kefka 11y ago

The IR emitted is a structured laser light at IR frequencies. They're already using "lasers". The problem with using any sort of structured light is that your frequency can't be in the same band of any sort of flood lights (sunlight, ballasts, IR camera lights). It's also why X-Rays work well: it's a structured light (kind of) and can be used because we won't have a flood of XRays everywhere. The problem isn't with "IR": they should not be using a structured light solution. It's just not durable enough for 3d scanning applications. It's also why I've worked on a SLAM-like 3d scanner. Understanding geometry, corners, edges, and gradients are much more versatile in scanning, because it is passive. Our very eyes don't send out beams of light, and yet we manage a very accurate SLAM-like map inside our own heads. The problem with the Hololens is that until they switch to a vision-only system, they're going to be plagued with problems regarding IR sources (or whatever freq they choose). Source: me (3Dollar scanner, amateur radio operator, OpenCV reprap implementer)

nurb 11y ago

"Use it inside" doesn't completely solve it, at least if you have windows inside. During my master internship at INRIA, a coworker had to put a tablecloth on his desk to be able to get a proper depth image with a Kinect. It turned out to be a small window, 5 meters away, reflecting on his desk. Indirect sun light was enough to mess up the projected pattern. So "Use it in a cave" can be a solution, but it's... less attractive. Funny fact is, Hololens doesn't work with windows.