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> IMO, this is one of the reasons that people are into at least talking about Bernie Sanders style socialism. Yeah but that doesn't make it right. Look at the

> IMO, this is one of the reasons that people are into at least talking about Bernie Sanders style socialism. Yeah but that doesn't make it right. Look at the lashback from the right against Immigration and the rise of Donald Trump. It has been hard for everyone, and human nature is to find individuals or groups to blame. I am an advocate of sanity on both ends. The left loves to talk about 'revolution' (as if right wing doesn't love to do that, except it calls it 'secession' and 'nullification') but the harsh truth is, we are about a million miles away from a revolution/secession/nullification. A revolution against the 'injustice' won't move 2 blocks from Times Square before it goes so violent that it would be an effective stalemate. There are far too many private guns in America for there to be a successful revolution. Civil War is more likely (lets not forget this is what really happened in China and Russia). Similarly a secession/nullification isn't happening irrespective of how many illegal immigrants arrive in this country (again thanks 2nd amendment for that). The principles true for the rest of the world just aren't that easily possible for America. There is no extreme right wing or left wing party winning election (Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are hardly the American Golden Dawn, UKIP or Hollande of America). American citizenry is heavily armed and hate speech is legal. Neo-nazis can freely march in America (that surprisingly neuters the power these groups have).

zepto 11y ago
If you don't think Trump is extreme right wing, you haven't been paying attention.
- splintercell 11y ago
  Trump isn't, but his supporters are.
  - zepto 11y ago
    Trump says all the things his supporters want to hear. "The problem is Muslims and Mexicans. We should deport them and build walls. We should obliterate their countries and take their oil. Torture is fine. We should kill the families of terrorists. Shooting Muslims with bullets dipped in pigs blood is a good way to teach them a lesson. The president should be able to directly punish CEOs who aren't protectionist enough. The freedom of the press should be curtailed. It's ok to use violence to punish non-supporters at your rallies." If that's not extreme right wing, I'm not sure what is.
    - splintercell 11y ago
      Wait, there is some sort of confusion here. Trump is leading an very right wing movement, just like Sanders is leading a very left wing movement(by American standards). I don't know why you said in the earlier post "If you don't think Trump is extreme right wing", because I never said any such thing.
      - zepto 11y ago
        So what did you mean by: "Trump isn't, but his supporters are."?
Spooky23 11y ago
There's only so many demographics that you can alienate. It's a golden age on the coasts, but many areas of the country have been spiraling downward for decades. If you're a working stiff with negative wage growth essentially working as servants for boomers with fat pensions and reverse mortgages, you're going to get more and more resentful. That's why a demogague like Trump is successful.

zepto 11y ago

If you don't think Trump is extreme right wing, you haven't been paying attention.

splintercell 11y ago
Trump isn't, but his supporters are.
- zepto 11y ago
  Trump says all the things his supporters want to hear. "The problem is Muslims and Mexicans. We should deport them and build walls. We should obliterate their countries and take their oil. Torture is fine. We should kill the families of terrorists. Shooting Muslims with bullets dipped in pigs blood is a good way to teach them a lesson. The president should be able to directly punish CEOs who aren't protectionist enough. The freedom of the press should be curtailed. It's ok to use violence to punish non-supporters at your rallies." If that's not extreme right wing, I'm not sure what is.
  - splintercell 11y ago
    Wait, there is some sort of confusion here. Trump is leading an very right wing movement, just like Sanders is leading a very left wing movement(by American standards). I don't know why you said in the earlier post "If you don't think Trump is extreme right wing", because I never said any such thing.
    - zepto 11y ago
      So what did you mean by: "Trump isn't, but his supporters are."?

Spooky23 11y ago

There's only so many demographics that you can alienate. It's a golden age on the coasts, but many areas of the country have been spiraling downward for decades. If you're a working stiff with negative wage growth essentially working as servants for boomers with fat pensions and reverse mortgages, you're going to get more and more resentful. That's why a demogague like Trump is successful.