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And the [2] video is already a steaming pile of bullshit. The AR side is equivalent of taking a 6" phablet and holding it at arms length: that dinky rectangle

by kefka 11y ago

And the [2] video is already a steaming pile of bullshit. The AR side is equivalent of taking a 6" phablet and holding it at arms length: that dinky rectangle is your augmented viewport. It doesn't do anywhere near a full AR on everything everywhere you look.

hacker_9 11y ago
Exactly. But what you described won't make money so we get these videos that don't take place in reality. Majority of non-technical users believe them too hence the hype. I'm interested to see how the reaction changes once hololens comes out.
- kefka 11y ago
  If anything, I would consider their videos and their dishonesty as fraudulent. It's also telling, that my previous post in this article was modded down pretty hard. a few of us went to Chicago to demo this, and I was sorely unimpressed. And the AR was only one facet. The bigger problem is their choice of active scanned IR. They mentioned that their new API will to geocode everything you scan with GPS points, reference points (wifi) and other ways of triangulation. And those points will be linked to Lat/Lon. That sounds exciting and scary both... but with failure to adapt to that huge glowing ball of wideband radiation means the Hololens is a fail outside or near windows. I guess that leaves the basements to us?
  - shpx 11y ago
    > And those points will be linked to Lat/Lon Do they "conveniently" upload all this to "the cloud" too?
    - kefka 11y ago
      The "Product Evangelists" refused to answer that, by talking about how Cool the platform was. And it was also limited by the fact that there were only about 7 minutes of questions taken. My guess is that yes, they would sync to MS local maps of your environments. It would make a great deal of sense, as that's where Google has a huge hole in on their maps service. It would put MS on the "map", literally and figuratively.
shmed 11y ago
You are overly exaggerating the field of view issue. I've tried the hololens twice already (the untethered version they will be shipping). Field of view is definitely smaller that I'd like, but it's MUCH bigger than a 6 inch phablet at arms length. It's closer to the size a 24 inch monitor sitting on your desk at arm length. Almost all tech journalist that tried it were blown away by the experience. Most of them mentioned the field of view issue, but I haven't read anyone saying that it was such an issue that it made the technology any less impressive.

by kefka 11y ago

hacker_9 11y ago

Exactly. But what you described won't make money so we get these videos that don't take place in reality. Majority of non-technical users believe them too hence the hype. I'm interested to see how the reaction changes once hololens comes out.

kefka 11y ago
If anything, I would consider their videos and their dishonesty as fraudulent. It's also telling, that my previous post in this article was modded down pretty hard. a few of us went to Chicago to demo this, and I was sorely unimpressed. And the AR was only one facet. The bigger problem is their choice of active scanned IR. They mentioned that their new API will to geocode everything you scan with GPS points, reference points (wifi) and other ways of triangulation. And those points will be linked to Lat/Lon. That sounds exciting and scary both... but with failure to adapt to that huge glowing ball of wideband radiation means the Hololens is a fail outside or near windows. I guess that leaves the basements to us?
- shpx 11y ago
  > And those points will be linked to Lat/Lon Do they "conveniently" upload all this to "the cloud" too?
  - kefka 11y ago
    The "Product Evangelists" refused to answer that, by talking about how Cool the platform was. And it was also limited by the fact that there were only about 7 minutes of questions taken. My guess is that yes, they would sync to MS local maps of your environments. It would make a great deal of sense, as that's where Google has a huge hole in on their maps service. It would put MS on the "map", literally and figuratively.

shmed 11y ago

You are overly exaggerating the field of view issue. I've tried the hololens twice already (the untethered version they will be shipping). Field of view is definitely smaller that I'd like, but it's MUCH bigger than a 6 inch phablet at arms length. It's closer to the size a 24 inch monitor sitting on your desk at arm length. Almost all tech journalist that tried it were blown away by the experience. Most of them mentioned the field of view issue, but I haven't read anyone saying that it was such an issue that it made the technology any less impressive.