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> Perhaps then should be a referendum to ask the "Euro mainlanders" if they want a UK with the privileges they have. The EU mainlander area's elected represent
by neximo4 11y ago
> Perhaps then should be a referendum to ask the "Euro mainlanders" if they want a UK with the privileges they have.
The EU mainlander area's elected representatives forged this deal.
The privileges the UK sought like the 'red card' system apply to the whole of the EU.
There's nothing stopping an EU country from getting the same terms on the integration bit, indeed some countries have done that to varying degrees - Switzerland (EEC), Iceland (EEC), Denmark (own currency), Norway (EEC with EU laws) & Sweden (own currency) & Turkey (customs union)
If you're a Spaniard don't you have to worry about Catalonia?
The EU allows states to 'minitiarize' and devolve down once the trivialities of sovereignty and the '3 basics' EEC principles are sorted out
- return0 11y agobut Norway, Iceland and switzerland are not part of the EU.
- neximo4 11y agoYup No not in the EU but they are in the EEC meaning they have unrestricted trade access to the EU including the 3 freedoms. I mentioned each of these have a varying degree of integration to the EU. Being in the EU means there is representation of which Switzerland, Norway and Iceland do not have. This isn't a great situation though as these places effectively enact EU legislation without representation and nearly pay full fees for EU membership (per person).
- return0 11y agoyes that is true
- toyg 11y agoEU and EEC are different things. I don't think anybody would object to the UK opting for staying in EEC but out of EU proper. After all that's what they want: a trade zone.
- neximo4 11y agoThere are problems with being in the EEC but not in the EU. For the 'sovereignty' issue this is the worst as there is no representation in the creation of the laws. That would be even worse than being out of the EU. Keep in mind Norway pays something like 90% per person of what the UK pays for its EEC membership. One day Brussels will make a law Norwegians don't like and they will be upset about it and won't be able to do anything about it. A trade zone requires consistent laws among its members too.
- Oletros 11y ago> EU and EEC are different things. I don't think anybody would object to the UK opting for staying in EEC but out of EU proper. After all that's what they want: a trade zone. Yes, this is what I wanted to say.