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If you look below the surface at what is going on it becomes pretty clear. Essentially one well funded Bitcoin company, Blockstream, has managed to hire a majo

by pmorici 11y ago

If you look below the surface at what is going on it becomes pretty clear. Essentially one well funded Bitcoin company, Blockstream, has managed to hire a majority of the current top Bitcoin Core contributors. They also control discussion on a handful of the historically important forums for discussing Bitcoin and censor any comments critical of Core or supporting a blocksize increase. Blockstream has a business plan that revolves around providing private blockchain services. For whatever reason they feel like in order to be successful they need to limit Bitcoin's block size so that it is very expensive and inconvenient to use Bitcoin. They have 55 million in funding and probably feel like they have a lot at stake. Hence they are playing very dirty to try and kill Bitcoin's first mover advantage so they can essentially privatize Bitcoin under their corporate banner. It would be like if AOL tried to kill the Internet by limiting packet size and line speed and then introduced AOL w/o the same limits.

kanzure 11y ago
That's... not what the consensus seems to be. How is it that those "historically important forums" have been talking about block size increases for so long if they are being "censored" on this topic....? Maybe they aren't being censored at all despite the accusations. This could be trivially verified by searching "site:reddit.com/r/bitcoin block size XT classic". Perhaps if you did as much digging as you claim, you would find that the censorship accusations are mostly false. Also, theymos isn't a Blockstream employee, great job digging though.... (BTW, I am a moderator of the bitcoin-dev mailing list.)
- antonios 11y ago
  Are you really claiming that there hasn't been any censorship in the Bitcoin subreddit? If I remember correctly, even gmaxwell has himself said in Reddit that he has found Theymos' censorship excessive.
  - replies_to_all 11y ago
    They will remove ANY non-negative post dealing with non-Blockstream (Core) Bitcoin or any other internet currency. This group is despicable that they are trying to take over like this.
- pmorici 11y ago
  If you follow any of the posts in /r/btc you will find people frequently posting before and after screen shots of their censored posts advocating for a block size increase or an alternative node implementation such as classic. There was also a post talking about how Theymos went to great lengths to modify the CSS for the /r/bitcoin sub in order to reorder the comment threads and make it appear as if posts from certain users are highly up voted when they are in fact heavily down voted. I'm aware that Theymos isn't a direct employee for Blockstream. That doesn't mean he isn't receiving financial compensation or some sort of other quid pro quo for supporting the Blockstream agenda. "This could be trivially verified by searching "site:reddit.com/r/bitcoin block size XT classic" I'm sure that will return a lot of results of people trashing any increase in blocksize and saying negative things about alternative node implementations those kinds of comments are encouraged and promoted. Edit: since you are a moderator of the bitcoin-dev mailing list you are probably also aware that there is censorship going on in that forum as well... https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/44nzxt/continued_censorship_of_opposing_ideas_now_on_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/44nzxt/continued_censo...

by pmorici 11y ago

kanzure 11y ago

That's... not what the consensus seems to be. How is it that those "historically important forums" have been talking about block size increases for so long if they are being "censored" on this topic....? Maybe they aren't being censored at all despite the accusations. This could be trivially verified by searching "site:reddit.com/r/bitcoin block size XT classic". Perhaps if you did as much digging as you claim, you would find that the censorship accusations are mostly false. Also, theymos isn't a Blockstream employee, great job digging though.... (BTW, I am a moderator of the bitcoin-dev mailing list.)

antonios 11y ago
Are you really claiming that there hasn't been any censorship in the Bitcoin subreddit? If I remember correctly, even gmaxwell has himself said in Reddit that he has found Theymos' censorship excessive.
- replies_to_all 11y ago
  They will remove ANY non-negative post dealing with non-Blockstream (Core) Bitcoin or any other internet currency. This group is despicable that they are trying to take over like this.
pmorici 11y ago
If you follow any of the posts in /r/btc you will find people frequently posting before and after screen shots of their censored posts advocating for a block size increase or an alternative node implementation such as classic. There was also a post talking about how Theymos went to great lengths to modify the CSS for the /r/bitcoin sub in order to reorder the comment threads and make it appear as if posts from certain users are highly up voted when they are in fact heavily down voted. I'm aware that Theymos isn't a direct employee for Blockstream. That doesn't mean he isn't receiving financial compensation or some sort of other quid pro quo for supporting the Blockstream agenda. "This could be trivially verified by searching "site:reddit.com/r/bitcoin block size XT classic" I'm sure that will return a lot of results of people trashing any increase in blocksize and saying negative things about alternative node implementations those kinds of comments are encouraged and promoted. Edit: since you are a moderator of the bitcoin-dev mailing list you are probably also aware that there is censorship going on in that forum as well... https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/44nzxt/continued_censorship_of_opposing_ideas_now_on_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/44nzxt/continued_censo...