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Which specific skills and talents are in shortage?
by waterlesscloud 11y ago
Which specific skills and talents are in shortage?
- bobosha 11y agoI'll start. 1. Deep learning, Neural networks, anything to do with AI. 2. Machine Vision, 3. Genomic Science (CRSPR etc. 4. Robotics/Mechatronics... and that's just a start.
- alayne 11y agoAnd H1Bs are used primarily for hiring people in those fields?
- shas3 11y agoIn the current structure these are the kinds of jobs that are getting harder to fill with H1B shortages. I personally know several experts who couldn't get O1 (and some who did) and had to leave the country after losing out in the lottery.
- bsder 11y ago> 3. Genomic Science (CRSPR etc. Did you read the article? > The mismatch is especially stark in the biomedical field. There, according to a 2014 paper by experts from UC San Francisco, Harvard and Princeton, "the training pipeline produces more scientists than relevant positions in academia, government, and the private sector are capable of absorbing."
- jdminhbg 11y agoGenomic Science is not the same as "the biomedical field." I'm not familiar with the job market in that particular field, but nothing you learn from reading the article gainsays the idea that it's hard to hire people to do genomic stuff.
- shas3 11y agoIf only a PhD credential was all that you needed to get a job! Seriously, that is one of the reasons the "shortage" argument breaks down. You want the best graduates and 1) they aren't necessarily always US citizens, 2) not all people with degrees are desirable for every open position
- tosseraccount 11y agoWouldn't raising the price of labor solve this problem?
- x0x0 11y ago1 and 2 are simply wrong. If you demand someone with a phd from a top 10 (stanford/cmu, berkeley, michigan, toronto, ny, columbia, UW, etc) then yes, I agree -- but there's probably fewer than 200 of those minted per year. If you realize a cmu ML phd holder isn't going to your startup for $125k + lottery tickets and is instead going to a public company for $200k + $100k in RSUs and are realistic about what you can hire, there are plenty of us with track records of delivering products and making our employers money. That's from my perspective both as hiring manager and an employee. I've been willing to hire both non-phds and outside of the aforementioned schools and really not had much trouble.
- bobosha 11y agoNot sure where you are based, I am an MIT alum and founder of a company in Machine Vision + Deep learning. I have posted job postings for Deep learning engineer on Angelist, every forum I could think of, including attending AI meetups here in Boston, and...and guess how many responses I got? zero, zippo, zilch.... p.s. BTW we are more open to Masters/Bachelor's (less researchy) than Phds.
- gherkin0 11y agoMaybe you could hire promising people and let them learn those skills, especially if you want people who are "less researchy." I'm not aware of a huge pool of "Machine Vision + Deep learning" people who are trapped in India because of Wipro using up all the H1Bs on J2EE programmers.
- bobosha 11y agoI am not hiring from India, my intent to hire was international students. I am with the proponents of H1b reform to prevent companies like Wipro & TCS using them for outsourcing/offshoring. But to say "there is no skills shortage" is at best laughable.
- gherkin0 11y ago> I am not hiring from India, my intent to hire was international students. > But to say "there is no skills shortage" is at best laughable. What is stopping you from filling that shortage by training people to have the skills you need? You're trying to hire students forchristsake.
- bfung 11y agoI suspect this is a problem: it's hard to articulate the level of skill and competency of what we're trying to hire for. How does one describe a good engineer vs. a subpar one, when the only requirement listed is "knows Java, can code fizzbuzz bug free in 1 function less than 10 lines and in less than 5 minutes?" Something to that effect...