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I think even people that are older sometimes forget how terrible it was to develop with JavaScript before things like Prototype and jQuery came on the scene. Ju

I think even people that are older sometimes forget how terrible it was to develop with JavaScript before things like Prototype and jQuery came on the scene. Just moving from alert() to console.log() was a revelation.

brakmic 11y ago
You're right! Forgetting to say "thank you" to people who helped us a lot is something that happens more than often in IT. I still remember when I heard of jQuery. It was in 2007 and it was so amazing. Yes, I admit, the 'alert()/console.log()' was amazing :)
- karlshea 11y ago
  I'd just like to go back and show 15-year-ago me Firebug or Chrome/Firefox's DevTools and inspector. It's pretty stunning how far the tooling has come and what you can do with it.
  - antod 11y ago
    Heh, nearly that far back I was wishing I could install Venkman in IE. JQuery and Firebug deserve a lot of credit for bringing some sanity to JS/web development. Sure things have moved on now, but they were ground breaking.
    - aidos 11y ago
      Man, it was 2006 (10 years ago!) when Firebug, Drosera [1] and Web Inspector [2] were all released. There were definitely a lot of people eager to have some tools to make front end web dev easier back then. I never worked with Venkman but I recall all too well the hellish time I had debugging JS back around the turn of the millennium. IE was laughable, if there was an error in a script somewhere it would often just say error on line -1. [1] https://webkit.org/blog/61/introducing-drosera/ https://webkit.org/blog/61/introducing-drosera/ [2] https://webkit.org/blog/41/introducing-the-web-inspector/ https://webkit.org/blog/41/introducing-the-web-inspector/
      - antod 11y ago
        That part about the line numbers in IE error messages was exactly the pain I was thinking of :)
  - brakmic 11y ago
    Sadly, we can't go back in time. But we should at least be grateful in the opposite direction.
- vatotemking 11y ago
  I'd like to say thank you to the author of iepngfix. You da real mvp. [0] [0] - https://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/ https://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/
dj_doh 11y ago
Write less, Do more. In its truest sense.

brakmic 11y ago

You're right! Forgetting to say "thank you" to people who helped us a lot is something that happens more than often in IT. I still remember when I heard of jQuery. It was in 2007 and it was so amazing. Yes, I admit, the 'alert()/console.log()' was amazing :)

karlshea 11y ago
I'd just like to go back and show 15-year-ago me Firebug or Chrome/Firefox's DevTools and inspector. It's pretty stunning how far the tooling has come and what you can do with it.
- antod 11y ago
  Heh, nearly that far back I was wishing I could install Venkman in IE. JQuery and Firebug deserve a lot of credit for bringing some sanity to JS/web development. Sure things have moved on now, but they were ground breaking.
  - aidos 11y ago
    Man, it was 2006 (10 years ago!) when Firebug, Drosera [1] and Web Inspector [2] were all released. There were definitely a lot of people eager to have some tools to make front end web dev easier back then. I never worked with Venkman but I recall all too well the hellish time I had debugging JS back around the turn of the millennium. IE was laughable, if there was an error in a script somewhere it would often just say error on line -1. [1] https://webkit.org/blog/61/introducing-drosera/ https://webkit.org/blog/61/introducing-drosera/ [2] https://webkit.org/blog/41/introducing-the-web-inspector/ https://webkit.org/blog/41/introducing-the-web-inspector/
    - antod 11y ago
      That part about the line numbers in IE error messages was exactly the pain I was thinking of :)
- brakmic 11y ago
  Sadly, we can't go back in time. But we should at least be grateful in the opposite direction.
vatotemking 11y ago
I'd like to say thank you to the author of iepngfix. You da real mvp. [0] [0] - https://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/ https://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/

dj_doh 11y ago

Write less, Do more. In its truest sense.