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Apple Shareholders Show Their Support for Tim Cook

28 points by jackgavigan 11y ago

sandworm101 11y ago
>> As Mr. Cook, 55, stood before the auditorium on Apple’s campus, the audience — made up mostly of investors in the company — rose from their seats and applauded him. The amount of applause is irrelevant. All shareholders are not equal. This isn't one person one vote. Were the institutional investors clapping? That one fund manger in the corner not clapping is worth more than a stadium of supportive private investors. The american people are split on this. As with every other issue, half the country sides with the government. Some surveys put it at more than half. And they do appear to be the older/richer/conservative investor class. They count for more because they own more. Twitter users may be very supportive and make lots of noise, but they don't count. Those older shareholders, the pension plans and hedge funds, I'm not so sure they are on Apple's side. Time is short. Rather than support Apple through applause, the shares-poor but votes-rich masses need to lobby Washington. Votes are their only power base. And old people. Get your parents and grandparents on side. Make sure they understand the situation when those endless landlines-only telephone surveys hit them this election season.
- techdragon 11y ago
  I am not a constitutional lawyer but at least from the outside it looks like the half of the country that "agrees with the government" are stupid ignorant fools who have so little understanding of not just the principles their country was founded on, but also no little of its actual history and next to nothing about how it is supposed to be governed "by the people for the people". I'm fine with their opinion the government is right, that's their right to have such an opinion after all. My issue is with the utter disregard to the proper mechanism by which you (the American box populi) proudly proclaim your country is run. If they did know anything about how the USA works, and truly believe the things the must by virtue of "agreeing with the government" they would be: Pressing politicians for constitutional amendments to formally revoke the rights currently being violated by the clandestine wing of the US DOD. They clearly believe they are antiquated and the government should not need to obey them. ... And turning up to vote... Yet you have to do crap like "make voting cool" to boost voter turnout... The majority of US citizens flat out don't care what the government does, otherwise they would vote. End of discussion. If you don't vote you can't complain, because you let everyone else make the choice for you. You make a point about institutional investors, which is completely valid yet feel the need to mix in irrelevant populist political spin, which irks me so much I need to once again vent my spleen on "what the hell is wrong with america?" I grew up as a child thinking damn the USA is cool, wouldnt it be great to move there and make my fortune or do something awesome with my life... Now all I want to do is find a part of the world to live in that their slimy tendrils aren't trying to suck the life out of like some sort of vampire squid.
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28 points by jackgavigan 11y ago

>> As Mr. Cook, 55, stood before the auditorium on Apple’s campus, the audience — made up mostly of investors in the company — rose from their seats and applauded him. The amount of applause is irrelevant. All shareholders are not equal. This isn't one person one vote. Were the institutional investors clapping? That one fund manger in the corner not clapping is worth more than a stadium of supportive private investors. The american people are split on this. As with every other issue, half the country sides with the government. Some surveys put it at more than half. And they do appear to be the older/richer/conservative investor class. They count for more because they own more. Twitter users may be very supportive and make lots of noise, but they don't count. Those older shareholders, the pension plans and hedge funds, I'm not so sure they are on Apple's side. Time is short. Rather than support Apple through applause, the shares-poor but votes-rich masses need to lobby Washington. Votes are their only power base. And old people. Get your parents and grandparents on side. Make sure they understand the situation when those endless landlines-only telephone surveys hit them this election season.

techdragon 11y ago
I am not a constitutional lawyer but at least from the outside it looks like the half of the country that "agrees with the government" are stupid ignorant fools who have so little understanding of not just the principles their country was founded on, but also no little of its actual history and next to nothing about how it is supposed to be governed "by the people for the people". I'm fine with their opinion the government is right, that's their right to have such an opinion after all. My issue is with the utter disregard to the proper mechanism by which you (the American box populi) proudly proclaim your country is run. If they did know anything about how the USA works, and truly believe the things the must by virtue of "agreeing with the government" they would be: Pressing politicians for constitutional amendments to formally revoke the rights currently being violated by the clandestine wing of the US DOD. They clearly believe they are antiquated and the government should not need to obey them. ... And turning up to vote... Yet you have to do crap like "make voting cool" to boost voter turnout... The majority of US citizens flat out don't care what the government does, otherwise they would vote. End of discussion. If you don't vote you can't complain, because you let everyone else make the choice for you. You make a point about institutional investors, which is completely valid yet feel the need to mix in irrelevant populist political spin, which irks me so much I need to once again vent my spleen on "what the hell is wrong with america?" I grew up as a child thinking damn the USA is cool, wouldnt it be great to move there and make my fortune or do something awesome with my life... Now all I want to do is find a part of the world to live in that their slimy tendrils aren't trying to suck the life out of like some sort of vampire squid.
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