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Apple has other products which could incorporate this behavior (not trusting their customers) like itunes content, iWorks or potentially jail broken iphones. I

by tomh- 17y ago

Apple has other products which could incorporate this behavior (not trusting their customers) like itunes content, iWorks or potentially jail broken iphones. I mean there are various ways for Apple to gain more control over their users.

alextgordon 17y ago
As far as I know, Apple doesn't even make a product with online activation. They use serial numbers or nothing at all. They just don't care about controlling their users.
- tomh- 17y ago
  True, hence "I wonder" when they do..is wondering something enough to downvote comments? And yes they do care about controlling the users, they just use other ways to enforce that (appstore, hardware lock-in)
- boredguy8 17y ago
  Someone isn't a longtime user of Logic Pro, which had one of the most obtuse and disruptive mechanisms to security that I ever experienced. Heaven forbid you lose your dongle...
  - drewcrawford 17y ago
    Apple didn't originally develop Logic Pro (or the dongle), they bought it from Elogic. Within one release of buying it, Apple removed the dongle from the copy protection system. To be fair, this was pretty hard, as Logic actually offloaded some DSP processing onto it. Today, the copy protection consists of: 1. The installer phones home to see if your serial is blacklisted. If Apple can't be reached, you can install it anyway (unlike activation). 2. Serials are blacklisted with each point release 3. Offline update install packages are behind a serial-wall on Apple's website, but are accessible with the system Software Update utility, which does not check serials. 4. Logic Pro broadcasts its serial over Bonjour, and won't start if another system on the local LAN is using the same serial This is by far and away the most lax copy protection system of any of the professional DAWs. The primary copy protection is that it's mac-only, and the people who blow $2k on a mac aren't likely to balk at a few grand on good software.
- runn1ng 17y ago
  This is not entirely true, if you treat iPhone applications like a software
- halo 17y ago
  Doesn't the iPhone have online activation?
chrischen 17y ago
As far as iTunes goes, they've been going towards less control what with removal of the DRM and all.

by tomh- 17y ago

alextgordon 17y ago

As far as I know, Apple doesn't even make a product with online activation. They use serial numbers or nothing at all. They just don't care about controlling their users.

tomh- 17y ago
True, hence "I wonder" when they do..is wondering something enough to downvote comments? And yes they do care about controlling the users, they just use other ways to enforce that (appstore, hardware lock-in)
boredguy8 17y ago
Someone isn't a longtime user of Logic Pro, which had one of the most obtuse and disruptive mechanisms to security that I ever experienced. Heaven forbid you lose your dongle...
- drewcrawford 17y ago
  Apple didn't originally develop Logic Pro (or the dongle), they bought it from Elogic. Within one release of buying it, Apple removed the dongle from the copy protection system. To be fair, this was pretty hard, as Logic actually offloaded some DSP processing onto it. Today, the copy protection consists of: 1. The installer phones home to see if your serial is blacklisted. If Apple can't be reached, you can install it anyway (unlike activation). 2. Serials are blacklisted with each point release 3. Offline update install packages are behind a serial-wall on Apple's website, but are accessible with the system Software Update utility, which does not check serials. 4. Logic Pro broadcasts its serial over Bonjour, and won't start if another system on the local LAN is using the same serial This is by far and away the most lax copy protection system of any of the professional DAWs. The primary copy protection is that it's mac-only, and the people who blow $2k on a mac aren't likely to balk at a few grand on good software.
runn1ng 17y ago
This is not entirely true, if you treat iPhone applications like a software
halo 17y ago
Doesn't the iPhone have online activation?

chrischen 17y ago

As far as iTunes goes, they've been going towards less control what with removal of the DRM and all.