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This seems like a kind of unfortunate place to start a Hacker News conversation and likely to exacerbate the issue. Seems like Doug had a bad day and overreact

by untog 11y ago

This seems like a kind of unfortunate place to start a Hacker News conversation and likely to exacerbate the issue. Seems like Doug had a bad day and overreacted - we've all been there. It's the weekend, hopefully in time cooler heads will prevail and all will be fine.

darklajid 11y ago
I flagged the link for that reason. What's there to discuss? People fighting? What is the context? And .. why would we want to watch? This feels inappropriate. We're sending a huge amount of traffic to a ~random~ ticket in which someone feels betrayed. What, what exactly, would HN like to discuss here? I mean - what is the topic? What IS there to discuss? Do we want to add helpful advice from our armchairs? Is this a way to bait out more details (from people that might know more, might be on HN)? Seriously, how's this more relevant than a post about Prince William getting wasted?
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inglor 11y ago
A lot of people are invested in express and run production services based on it. While I agree it is unfortunate for this discussion to reach Hacker News it is also definitely important and interesting information to those involved. I'm sure that I would want to know.
- untog 11y ago
  This happened an hour ago. There is absolutely no indication that it will be permanent - it takes a single click of a button to reopen a pull request. The overwhelming chances are that you wouldn't have ever noticed. And publicity like this is just going to make it harder to move on.
vessenes 11y ago
I just read a long list of github issue comments about express out of curiosity about the backstory here. It does sound like a bad day for Doug, but you can also see the frustration building over a three month period; sometimes enough is enough - straws can break backs. Managing open governance is tricky, even with good participant trust. And it seems like Doug can't work on this stuff during work hours, i.e. nobody is paying him for it. So those are additional stressors. Hopefully he can find a happy place again, but I would be surprised if it involved express unless he was hired by someone to work on it.

by untog 11y ago

darklajid 11y ago

I flagged the link for that reason. What's there to discuss? People fighting? What is the context? And .. why would we want to watch? This feels inappropriate. We're sending a huge amount of traffic to a ~random~ ticket in which someone feels betrayed. What, what exactly, would HN like to discuss here? I mean - what is the topic? What IS there to discuss? Do we want to add helpful advice from our armchairs? Is this a way to bait out more details (from people that might know more, might be on HN)? Seriously, how's this more relevant than a post about Prince William getting wasted?

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inglor 11y ago

A lot of people are invested in express and run production services based on it. While I agree it is unfortunate for this discussion to reach Hacker News it is also definitely important and interesting information to those involved. I'm sure that I would want to know.

untog 11y ago
This happened an hour ago. There is absolutely no indication that it will be permanent - it takes a single click of a button to reopen a pull request. The overwhelming chances are that you wouldn't have ever noticed. And publicity like this is just going to make it harder to move on.

vessenes 11y ago

I just read a long list of github issue comments about express out of curiosity about the backstory here. It does sound like a bad day for Doug, but you can also see the frustration building over a three month period; sometimes enough is enough - straws can break backs. Managing open governance is tricky, even with good participant trust. And it seems like Doug can't work on this stuff during work hours, i.e. nobody is paying him for it. So those are additional stressors. Hopefully he can find a happy place again, but I would be surprised if it involved express unless he was hired by someone to work on it.