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> People will be having sex in your house even without the cameras. That's what people do. Without getting too graphic, there's a HUGE difference between peopl

> People will be having sex in your house even without the cameras. That's what people do. Without getting too graphic, there's a HUGE difference between people having sex for fun and a professional porn shoot. The latter is messy, smelly, and causes a surprising amount of lasting damage. There's a reason that so many porn studios film in hotels (and likewise, a reason that so many hotels refuse to rent rooms to people that they suspect will be filming there). I won't go into details on HN because it's not really the venue, but let's just say this: if you knew what being "on site" at a porn shoot really looked, sounded, and smelled like, you'd never want to watch porn again[0]. (And we're not talking about an amateur porn shoot where people just film their "normal" sex on a webcam, either - Michael Lucas literally holds the world record for the most expensive gay porn film ever made[1]). [0] Source: good friend of mine was in the industry for a while (behind the camera, not in front). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lucas'_La_Dolce_Vita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lucas'_La_Dolce_Vita

sandworm101 11y ago
Non-porn people are very capable of making a real mess. Talk to any hotel cleaner. People get drunk, they bleed, they get sick and even die, the later being very rare in porn.
- chimeracoder 11y ago
  > Non-porn people are very capable of making a real mess. Talk to any hotel cleaner. I'm well aware that sex can be messy, and I still maintain that professional pornographic shoots are far worse. It sounds reasonable to compare the two, unless you've ever been on the set of a professional pornographic shoot.
  - sandworm101 11y ago
    I didn't mean sex, just that people can make a huge mess no matter what they are doing.
  - true_religion 11y ago
    How so?
- kafkaesq 11y ago
  All those positions, all those retakes, on the couch, on the kitchen counters, in the stairwell. Plus there tend to be additional people on set besides the actors, having takeout food, smoke breaks, etc.
  - ryanlol 11y ago
    People tend to have takeout in their hotel rooms, people tend to smoke (various things) in their hotel rooms, people throw TVs through their hotel room windows (and not only in movies).
    - true_religion 11y ago
      Let's put it this way... its the equivalent to having a dance party in your hotel room as opposed to just having to dance with your significant other. Sure, it is all 'dancing' but the quantity of people has a qualitative effect on behavior.
      - ryanlol 11y ago
        >its the equivalent to having a dance party in your hotel room This happens, a lot. Guess what happens afterwards? The hotel generally charges you a cleaning fee. (Which includes much more than just cleaning, but the days the room wasn't in an usable state etc.)
        true_religion 11y ago
        That's exactly what the AirBnB holders ought to charge. Of course that kind of stuff are business concerns which AirBnB sellers tend not to think about because in their minds they're not running a business.
        ryanlol 11y ago
        https://www.airbnb.com/guarantee https://www.airbnb.com/guarantee AirBnB also has an option that enables you to set up a cleaning fee to be charged if necessary.
phjesusthatguy3 11y ago
"Lucas contends that the film is the most expensive gay porn film ever made due to a budget of $250,000 and multiple celebrity cameos." -- your wikipedia link. So, doesn't literally hold the world record.
ryanlol 11y ago
If you're not going to any details your comment is literally worthless. I've been in a plenty of hotel rooms that suffered far worse damage than I could ever imagine a porn shoot causing. At least I've never watched any porn that involved throwing things through the window, setting the carpet on fire and the entire building reeking of weed.
threatofrain 11y ago
This looks like a chain of telephone that leads to exaggeration. There's no need for prose telling us that if we saw the behind-the-scenes of a porn shoot, then we'd never want to watch porn again. That's extremely unlikely. If AirBNB wanted to quantify the risk of porn shoots, then they are in the best position for that kind of empiricism. The rest of us are speculating from very weak intuitions; just a bunch of posturing.

sandworm101 11y ago

Non-porn people are very capable of making a real mess. Talk to any hotel cleaner. People get drunk, they bleed, they get sick and even die, the later being very rare in porn.

chimeracoder 11y ago
> Non-porn people are very capable of making a real mess. Talk to any hotel cleaner. I'm well aware that sex can be messy, and I still maintain that professional pornographic shoots are far worse. It sounds reasonable to compare the two, unless you've ever been on the set of a professional pornographic shoot.
- sandworm101 11y ago
  I didn't mean sex, just that people can make a huge mess no matter what they are doing.
- true_religion 11y ago
  How so?
kafkaesq 11y ago
All those positions, all those retakes, on the couch, on the kitchen counters, in the stairwell. Plus there tend to be additional people on set besides the actors, having takeout food, smoke breaks, etc.
- ryanlol 11y ago
  People tend to have takeout in their hotel rooms, people tend to smoke (various things) in their hotel rooms, people throw TVs through their hotel room windows (and not only in movies).
  - true_religion 11y ago
    Let's put it this way... its the equivalent to having a dance party in your hotel room as opposed to just having to dance with your significant other. Sure, it is all 'dancing' but the quantity of people has a qualitative effect on behavior.
    - ryanlol 11y ago
      >its the equivalent to having a dance party in your hotel room This happens, a lot. Guess what happens afterwards? The hotel generally charges you a cleaning fee. (Which includes much more than just cleaning, but the days the room wasn't in an usable state etc.)
      - true_religion 11y ago
        That's exactly what the AirBnB holders ought to charge. Of course that kind of stuff are business concerns which AirBnB sellers tend not to think about because in their minds they're not running a business.
        ryanlol 11y ago
        https://www.airbnb.com/guarantee https://www.airbnb.com/guarantee AirBnB also has an option that enables you to set up a cleaning fee to be charged if necessary.

phjesusthatguy3 11y ago

"Lucas contends that the film is the most expensive gay porn film ever made due to a budget of $250,000 and multiple celebrity cameos." -- your wikipedia link. So, doesn't literally hold the world record.

ryanlol 11y ago

If you're not going to any details your comment is literally worthless. I've been in a plenty of hotel rooms that suffered far worse damage than I could ever imagine a porn shoot causing. At least I've never watched any porn that involved throwing things through the window, setting the carpet on fire and the entire building reeking of weed.

threatofrain 11y ago

This looks like a chain of telephone that leads to exaggeration. There's no need for prose telling us that if we saw the behind-the-scenes of a porn shoot, then we'd never want to watch porn again. That's extremely unlikely. If AirBNB wanted to quantify the risk of porn shoots, then they are in the best position for that kind of empiricism. The rest of us are speculating from very weak intuitions; just a bunch of posturing.