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Thats how I feel. I have a good job that pays me a bit below than my market value, but it makes up for it in work-life balance. Heck just today I came to work a

Thats how I feel. I have a good job that pays me a bit below than my market value, but it makes up for it in work-life balance. Heck just today I came to work an hour and a half late because I was surfing and I didn't have to notify anyone that I would be late. That freedom is something I havent been able to put a price tag on yet, and its why I've turned down much higher salaries the last few years.

kzhahou 11y ago
But the question is whether you could have negotiated an extra $15K --for the SAME surf-friendly job you have now-- just by holding out for 1 more day during the interview/hiring process.
- cgopalan 11y ago
  If the $15K is guaranteed when you hold out for 1 more day, sure. If not, its like any other trade-off between your mental peace and more effort.
- rhodysurf 11y ago
  Of course I would, but a company saying they are flexible about the hours you work and them actually being flexible are two different things. Its always going to be a risk. There are other factors, such as the level of autonomy I have, that weigh into things too.
- noxToken 11y ago
  Isn't that typically the question when negotiating anything? How often do we truly walk away with the absolute best deal that we can get? Even if, how often can we say with 100% confidence that the deal was the best that can be offered? I think people hate to admit that things can just be "good enough", because the phrase "good enough" sounds like we settled without putting forth enough effort. It's a false dichotomy. Things can be good enough in one area yet outstanding in others.
  - kzhahou 11y ago
    We're taking about whether to negotiate vs. just taking first offer from company. Even if money isn't your TOP priority (vs flexible hours, etc) and you love the work opportunity being offered to you, you should still negotiate up front and try to get the company to come up higher. It's MUCH easier than asking for a raise or promotion later -- something as simple as saying "can you come up a bit higher?" on a phone call --those seven little words-- could pay for your summer vacation!
thedufer 11y ago
> That freedom is something I havent been able to put a price tag on yet Keep your eyes open! I thought the same thing about six months ago, but it turns out my price tag just sat in the area between what I thought people were willing to pay me and what they actually were.

kzhahou 11y ago

But the question is whether you could have negotiated an extra $15K --for the SAME surf-friendly job you have now-- just by holding out for 1 more day during the interview/hiring process.

cgopalan 11y ago
If the $15K is guaranteed when you hold out for 1 more day, sure. If not, its like any other trade-off between your mental peace and more effort.
rhodysurf 11y ago
Of course I would, but a company saying they are flexible about the hours you work and them actually being flexible are two different things. Its always going to be a risk. There are other factors, such as the level of autonomy I have, that weigh into things too.
noxToken 11y ago
Isn't that typically the question when negotiating anything? How often do we truly walk away with the absolute best deal that we can get? Even if, how often can we say with 100% confidence that the deal was the best that can be offered? I think people hate to admit that things can just be "good enough", because the phrase "good enough" sounds like we settled without putting forth enough effort. It's a false dichotomy. Things can be good enough in one area yet outstanding in others.
- kzhahou 11y ago
  We're taking about whether to negotiate vs. just taking first offer from company. Even if money isn't your TOP priority (vs flexible hours, etc) and you love the work opportunity being offered to you, you should still negotiate up front and try to get the company to come up higher. It's MUCH easier than asking for a raise or promotion later -- something as simple as saying "can you come up a bit higher?" on a phone call --those seven little words-- could pay for your summer vacation!

thedufer 11y ago

> That freedom is something I havent been able to put a price tag on yet Keep your eyes open! I thought the same thing about six months ago, but it turns out my price tag just sat in the area between what I thought people were willing to pay me and what they actually were.