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Flickr and author currently verifying, photo allegedly showing 9M-MRO in 2015

6 points by zerobudgetdev 11y ago

zerobudgetdev 11y ago
In this post I explain why I think it could be, with some images and some explanations. That doesn't look neither really like a Q, more like a scratched O. Look at left bottom and top side of letter Q. http://s21.postimg.org/yblu6kcqf/sc_o.jpg http://s21.postimg.org/yblu6kcqf/sc_o.jpg Compare with zoomed Q from following photos: http://s30.postimg.org/jw64lrkzh/mrq_ams.png http://s30.postimg.org/jw64lrkzh/mrq_ams.png MRQ was photographed just a few days before in Amsterdam (July 1 2015) and had the Q perfectly visible/full. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-2H6-ER/2671234/L/&sid=c824265ff6121bc25317de891b0215c8 http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-... Photographed also a few days later (July 22 2015). Letter Q completely visible: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-2H6-ER/2758215/L/&sid=e6d433331010d2cd39b70576830596a7 http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-... PlaneFinder (http://planefinder.net http://planefinder.net), when playing back to 10 July 2015 to show MH147 and MH146 flights shows: http://s16.postimg.org/596yg8j85/Cb8ad2x_Wo_AA4_Qo_Q_jpg_large.jpg http://s16.postimg.org/596yg8j85/Cb8ad2x_Wo_AA4_Qo_Q_jpg_lar... Time shown in photo is departure time so add that flight time and then convert to Melbourne time zone (add 10). MH147 departure time shown by Planefinder = 12:34:02 UTC MH147 flight length = 7.45 hours MH147 arrived at 6.19am Melbourne time on July 10 2015. MH146 departure time shown by Planefinder = 22:19:02 UTC MH146 flight length = 8:00 hours MH146 departed at 8.19am Melbourne time on July 10 2015. Some EXIF fields included in photo: Shutter Count - 16834 (This field can't be modified by user as it is signed by Nikon on model D5100. It shows current image count. It follows other photos took by user in July 2015.). Date and Time (Original) in photo - 2015:07:10 09:42:20 Date and Time (Digitized) - 2015:07:10 09:42:20 Power Up Time - 2015:07:01 15:28:38 I asked author confirmation of what he saw (maybe he has other photos) and waiting for it. Flickr is currently following a case verifying the effective date/time of photo. Again, flights made by 9M-MRQ that day are confirmed by libhomeradar.org. It explicitly talks of using UTC times. See “Contacted” column title. http://s17.postimg.org/fqlvgkisf/libhomeradar.png http://s17.postimg.org/fqlvgkisf/libhomeradar.png Lastly, (http://acarsd.org http://acarsd.org), a website that aggregates ACARS contacts, http://www.acarsd.org/Fleetlist_MAS_Malaysia+Airlines.html http://www.acarsd.org/Fleetlist_MAS_Malaysia+Airlines.html, says that 9M-MRQ was flying MH147 on July 10 2015. http://s17.postimg.org/407xz6pzz/acarsd.png http://s17.postimg.org/407xz6pzz/acarsd.png This image shows what Melbourne airport structure is. http://static.crosstheditch.net/events//crosstheditch/spring2010/melbournechart.jpg http://static.crosstheditch.net/events//crosstheditch/spring... Trying to visually place the photo in the map, I think the plane was: - on the runway so either landing or taking off. - oriented to left compared to terminal buildings that were behind on the right. - This means the plane was at least at 3/4 of runway 34. One of the planes in terminal has clearly light from sun coming from right from an angle similar to the one of sunset. 340 (runway orientation) - 298 (sun orientation at sunset) = 42 (angle between runway 34 and sun direction at sunset) http://s16.postimg.org/3legu2tol/sunset.png http://s16.postimg.org/3legu2tol/sunset.png Notice how planes in terminal are not parked in same runway orientation but diagonally.

6 points by zerobudgetdev 11y ago

In this post I explain why I think it could be, with some images and some explanations. That doesn't look neither really like a Q, more like a scratched O. Look at left bottom and top side of letter Q. http://s21.postimg.org/yblu6kcqf/sc_o.jpg http://s21.postimg.org/yblu6kcqf/sc_o.jpg Compare with zoomed Q from following photos: http://s30.postimg.org/jw64lrkzh/mrq_ams.png http://s30.postimg.org/jw64lrkzh/mrq_ams.png MRQ was photographed just a few days before in Amsterdam (July 1 2015) and had the Q perfectly visible/full. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-2H6-ER/2671234/L/&sid=c824265ff6121bc25317de891b0215c8 http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-... Photographed also a few days later (July 22 2015). Letter Q completely visible: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-2H6-ER/2758215/L/&sid=e6d433331010d2cd39b70576830596a7 http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-... PlaneFinder (http://planefinder.net http://planefinder.net), when playing back to 10 July 2015 to show MH147 and MH146 flights shows: http://s16.postimg.org/596yg8j85/Cb8ad2x_Wo_AA4_Qo_Q_jpg_large.jpg http://s16.postimg.org/596yg8j85/Cb8ad2x_Wo_AA4_Qo_Q_jpg_lar... Time shown in photo is departure time so add that flight time and then convert to Melbourne time zone (add 10). MH147 departure time shown by Planefinder = 12:34:02 UTC MH147 flight length = 7.45 hours MH147 arrived at 6.19am Melbourne time on July 10 2015. MH146 departure time shown by Planefinder = 22:19:02 UTC MH146 flight length = 8:00 hours MH146 departed at 8.19am Melbourne time on July 10 2015. Some EXIF fields included in photo: Shutter Count - 16834 (This field can't be modified by user as it is signed by Nikon on model D5100. It shows current image count. It follows other photos took by user in July 2015.). Date and Time (Original) in photo - 2015:07:10 09:42:20 Date and Time (Digitized) - 2015:07:10 09:42:20 Power Up Time - 2015:07:01 15:28:38 I asked author confirmation of what he saw (maybe he has other photos) and waiting for it. Flickr is currently following a case verifying the effective date/time of photo. Again, flights made by 9M-MRQ that day are confirmed by libhomeradar.org. It explicitly talks of using UTC times. See “Contacted” column title. http://s17.postimg.org/fqlvgkisf/libhomeradar.png http://s17.postimg.org/fqlvgkisf/libhomeradar.png Lastly, (http://acarsd.org http://acarsd.org), a website that aggregates ACARS contacts, http://www.acarsd.org/Fleetlist_MAS_Malaysia+Airlines.html http://www.acarsd.org/Fleetlist_MAS_Malaysia+Airlines.html, says that 9M-MRQ was flying MH147 on July 10 2015. http://s17.postimg.org/407xz6pzz/acarsd.png http://s17.postimg.org/407xz6pzz/acarsd.png This image shows what Melbourne airport structure is. http://static.crosstheditch.net/events//crosstheditch/spring2010/melbournechart.jpg http://static.crosstheditch.net/events//crosstheditch/spring... Trying to visually place the photo in the map, I think the plane was: - on the runway so either landing or taking off. - oriented to left compared to terminal buildings that were behind on the right. - This means the plane was at least at 3/4 of runway 34. One of the planes in terminal has clearly light from sun coming from right from an angle similar to the one of sunset. 340 (runway orientation) - 298 (sun orientation at sunset) = 42 (angle between runway 34 and sun direction at sunset) http://s16.postimg.org/3legu2tol/sunset.png http://s16.postimg.org/3legu2tol/sunset.png Notice how planes in terminal are not parked in same runway orientation but diagonally.