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>if the NSA had that data, they'd share it with the FBI No they would not. Different government agencies are tasked with different resources, different object
by toufka 11y ago
>if the NSA had that data, they'd share it with the FBI
No they would not. Different government agencies are tasked with different resources, different objectives, and different guiding laws. What is legal for some agencies is blatantly illegal for others. The NSA has no domestic mission and cannot generally operate on American soil - true of the entire US military [1]. This blurring of those lines is exactly the problem. By permitting the FBI to take on NSA-like capabilities, and giving the NSA FBI-like responsibilities one gives the military a role in monitoring its own citizens, and an adversarial law enforcement agency unlimited espionage powers - very dangerous precedents - digital or otherwise.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
- thejefflarson 11y agoThe FBI most definitely has access to intelligence databases and information: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/25/us/25stellarwind-ig-report.html#document/p608 http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/25/us/25stellarwi... A key part of the FBI's mission is "to protect and defend the United States against terrorist and foreign intelligence threats" after all: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/faqs https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/faqs
- cuckcuckspruce 11y agoThey have limited access to some intelligence databases and information. That doesn't mean that they can just pop random selectors through PRISM for the lulz though - nor does it mean that the FBI and NSA share everything they have on everybody, or at least they don't for now.
- thejefflarson 11y agoI don't think it is in anyway limited: https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/facilitating-an-enhanced-information-sharing-network https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/facilitating-an-enhanced-... As to the point about selectors, if a selector has an even remotely domestic terrorism related component, and is authorized by the FISA court, the FBI can and does see that information. Edit: added qualifier about terrorism
- mattlutze 11y agoNSA is an agency of the Department of Defense. CIA is an independent organization. FBI is counted among the set of US "Intelligence" organizations, but if there's one thing media and memoirs tell us, it's that organization in different Departments have a history of not playing nice. Case in point, all the finger pointing around organizations not sharing information pre 9/11. DOD and DOJ in particular I don't think have such a close buddy-buddy relationship.
- thejefflarson 11y agoInformation sharing greatly increased post 9/11. See my reply to the sibling comment.