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I like Opera, and have used it since ~2003. It was so far ahead of the pack then. It's not been my main browser for a long time, but I've always had it there
by zhte415 11y ago
I like Opera, and have used it since ~2003. It was so far ahead of the pack then. It's not been my main browser for a long time, but I've always had it there as a clean and fast alternative. That's mainly because I'm SSH tunneled through Firefox, so when desiring to be untunneled, turn on Opera.
But Qihoo/360? This is a company with the exact opposite moral principles of Opera. Of bloatware and spyware, of unexpected updates, backdoors, and spider-like trojans that install on anything from USB sticks to mobile phones plugged into an 'infected' device. It represents the worse of the worse of China's software market, which can be really really excellent.
I'm uninstalling Opera right now.
- frozenport 11y ago>>the worse of the worse of China's software market, which can be really really excellent. Do you have an examples of excellence?
- nl 11y agoXiaomi and Huawei's software is generally pretty good.
- zghst 11y agoExcept for the CN gov't spyware baked in...
- anonbanker 11y agobetter chinese government than US government.
- sandGorgon 11y agoMIUI is the most easily recognizable.
- VincentEvans 11y agoI use Quihoo (Total 360) antivirus and find it to be fast, well constructed and non-intrusive. I would like to hear a good reasoned argument why it isn't safe or secure to run it. I have looked into this matter a couple of time and was unable to find any evidence, aside from run of the mill "it's chinese" slander.
- kev6168 11y agoCan you uninstall Qihoo360's software easily nowadays? Four years ago I helped a friend to clean up his PC and it took me more than _two hours_ to remove numerous little pieces Qihoo had put in every corners of his system. I had to search the whole hard drive and the whole Windows registry, and delete them one by one manually. The feeling was like battling against something really evil.
- unprepare 11y agorevo uninstaller will do those searches for you - for people still facing uninstallations like this.
- VincentEvans 11y agoThis is what i use: https://www.360totalsecurity.com/en/ https://www.360totalsecurity.com/en/ I haven't had the need to uninstall it, but it hasn't given me the reason to either - at no point it made me feel like i was using something shady. It also has very little (and in a different forum i would use the word "none") in terms of the shareware aspects that are common to other free antiviruses. I've been using it for a while too, probably over a year. Here's a 69-page long thread on an antivirus-themed forums that's been running since 2014: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/360-total-security-english.363038/page-69 http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/360-total-security-en... I've been visiting it from time to time seeing whether the community attitude towards the product has changed for the worse, but so far it appears a lot of people use it.
- kev6168 11y agoQihoo is listed at NYSE (went public in 2011), regulations and consumer protections are better enforced in many overseas markets than in China. I usually look for English version if I have to use software produced by certain Chinese software companies.
- ck2 11y agoif you want to be really Opera hardcore, you'd use the last version of Opera's presto engine before they converted to webkit (version 12.18) It's actually very fast and stable and many people in 3rd world still use opera mini based on presto for low end phones.