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S.id

66 points by ukz 11y ago

Huhty 11y ago
Isn't there hundreds of services that do this?
- hotcool 11y ago
  Yes, but this is the shortest url I've seen. If every character counts, this is the url shortener to use.
  - cynix 11y ago
    A few years ago, a URL shortener was running on the .to ccTLD itself. That was the shortest possible URL shortener service since there are no single-character TLDs. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work anymore.
    - RubyPinch 11y ago
      there was also another that was using a unicode character (an arrow) as its domain name, not shorter technically, but in any character-counting situation, just as short as s.id
      - cynix 11y ago
        Yeah there was →.ws or something like that. Still longer than "to" though.
  - daurnimator 11y ago
    We've used http://v.gd http://v.gd for years.
    - throweway 11y ago
      Admit it thats your site
      - daurnimator 11y ago
        nope. and the homepage clearly says it is sponsored by "memset", whoever they are.
        throweway 11y ago
        Clearly "memset" != "daurnimator" so yeah Q.E.D.
    - bmm6o 11y ago
      What are your use cases for shortening links? Is it for print?
  - profmonocle 11y ago
    All else being equal, sure, but this shortener throws up a branded redirect page for a second instead of just doing an HTTP 301 redirect. IMO, every character would have to count a lot to make up for the bad user experience. Plus, they can't keep it this short for long. They can only shorten 3,844 URLs before they get up to 8 characters, and only 238,328 before they get up to 9, at which point it's only 3 characters shorter than j.mp. Getting popular will actually hurt their advantage.
yalogin 11y ago
What is this? Clicked on the link browsing this site and looking at the landing page gives me no clue what this does and why I should care about this. There isn't even a help page there.
- markbnj 11y ago
  There's an edit box with placeholder text that says "Paste long url here," and a button next to it labeled "shorten." It seems pretty self-explanatory.
  - mrspeaker 11y ago
    With several massive images that cover the screen with links to Indonesian landmarks... it's a... thing that shortens URLs into Indonesian landmarks?
    - markbnj 11y ago
      All I can say is that on first glance it appeared to me to be a url shortener, and the thought that it, um, shortened landmarks... or something... never crossed my mind.
  - boomlinde 11y ago
    The label on the button only seemed to appear after loading the other, fuctionally irrelevant stuff for some 5-10 seconds.
- everfree 11y ago
  If you click the tiny 'help' button in the footer, click on "User Guides", load the 3MB PDF file, then go to page 002 (page 5 in the PDF document), there is a short blurb about what s.id is and does.
  - vortico 11y ago
    I thought you were joking, but wow. The webmaster seems to have ordered the whole graphic design package for this website, where it's not needed at all!
hanief 11y ago
This is a url shortener made by PANDI [http://www.pandi.id http://www.pandi.id], Indonesian .id (dot id) ccTLD. Btw, they are opening anything.id right now, so you probably can search interesting domains like: humano.id, parano.id, etc.
- themartorana 11y ago
  We own http://literal.ly http://literal.ly - look, it's all good fun. Go grab a cool domain while they're available...
  - deleted 11y ago
    [deleted]
- crisnoble 11y ago
  For others who started thinking about what other options would be available: http://www.wordfind.com/ends-with/id/ http://www.wordfind.com/ends-with/id/, but at 169/yr at 101domains (didn't do much shopping) it is too expensive for a lark. I mean what could I do with val.id? https://domainr.com/val.id https://domainr.com/val.id
- voltagex_ 11y ago
  How much control does the Indonesian government have over the registrars? I note that my favourite registrar, Gandi, can't do .id. Do you recommend any in particular?
- voltagex_ 11y ago
  Looks like "Okusi Associates" have done what you suggest and bought most words ending in "id" - it costs less than 3USD/year. Pity. Edit: Nope, got my conversion wrong. One registrar lists a fee of 275000 INR and many multiples of that for "short" domain names. Very glad I looked up what the thousands seperator was in Indonesia before clicking buy.
stevenspasbo 11y ago
Every time the background image changed the entire page became unresponsive.
vortico 11y ago
Short domain, but stop with the background images. This design style is one of the reasons the internet still doesn't seem faster after decades of improvement. I would much prefer a ~4KB HTML page with no dependencies containing just <form ...><input name="url"/><button>Shorten</button></form> The domain name is simple. Why not make the page the same way to demonstrate this for your service?
- idealboy 11y ago
  This. No one is going here for pretty pictures.
- matteotom 11y ago
  That's why I just made my own: http://mtb.wtf http://mtb.wtf It's really just a personal experiment to see if I could write a useful webapp entirely in lua in my nginx config: https://github.com/matthewbentley/urlshort https://github.com/matthewbentley/urlshort (which is actually a terrible idea in real life). It also automatically saves pages on archive.org, and you can access the info on a short code at mtb.wtf/i/<code> (ie, http://mtb.wtf/i/e093b http://mtb.wtf/i/e093b ). It also re-saves a fresh copy each time a url is re-submitted. You can also request a specific short code here: mtb.wtf/addexact
- hakanito 11y ago
  Been using Google's shortener for a while, does the job. http://goo.gl http://goo.gl
- rkeene2 11y ago
  There's always http://oc9.org/yourShortURLHere http://oc9.org/yourShortURLHere but I always get complaints that it's not obvious what it does or how to use it
ossreality 11y ago
This is a joke right? So heavy with huge pictures for no reason. Plus you do an HTML redirect? I can't even.
MrRadar 11y ago
There are way way too many of these sites and frankly even just having one breaks the web. Look at this list of dead shorteners: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=URLTeam#Dead_or_Broken http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=URLTeam#Dead_or_Broke... Imagine how many hyperlinks each takes with them when it dies and how many pages reference those links. Just stop it!
- panglott 11y ago
  It wouldn't be quite so bad if there was a good one run by a non-profit or open foundation.
- hobarrera 11y ago
  I'd never thought of this, but it's true and extremely harmful to the internet as a whole.
- adultSwim 11y ago
  For just the opposite of these, check out Handle (handle.net) It's a pay service to provide archival/permanent links. It's intended to help with URLs changing over time.

S.id

66 points by ukz 11y ago

Huhty 11y ago

Isn't there hundreds of services that do this?

hotcool 11y ago
Yes, but this is the shortest url I've seen. If every character counts, this is the url shortener to use.
- cynix 11y ago
  A few years ago, a URL shortener was running on the .to ccTLD itself. That was the shortest possible URL shortener service since there are no single-character TLDs. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work anymore.
  - RubyPinch 11y ago
    there was also another that was using a unicode character (an arrow) as its domain name, not shorter technically, but in any character-counting situation, just as short as s.id
    - cynix 11y ago
      Yeah there was →.ws or something like that. Still longer than "to" though.
- daurnimator 11y ago
  We've used http://v.gd http://v.gd for years.
  - throweway 11y ago
    Admit it thats your site
    - daurnimator 11y ago
      nope. and the homepage clearly says it is sponsored by "memset", whoever they are.
      - throweway 11y ago
        Clearly "memset" != "daurnimator" so yeah Q.E.D.
  - bmm6o 11y ago
    What are your use cases for shortening links? Is it for print?
- profmonocle 11y ago
  All else being equal, sure, but this shortener throws up a branded redirect page for a second instead of just doing an HTTP 301 redirect. IMO, every character would have to count a lot to make up for the bad user experience. Plus, they can't keep it this short for long. They can only shorten 3,844 URLs before they get up to 8 characters, and only 238,328 before they get up to 9, at which point it's only 3 characters shorter than j.mp. Getting popular will actually hurt their advantage.

yalogin 11y ago

What is this? Clicked on the link browsing this site and looking at the landing page gives me no clue what this does and why I should care about this. There isn't even a help page there.

markbnj 11y ago
There's an edit box with placeholder text that says "Paste long url here," and a button next to it labeled "shorten." It seems pretty self-explanatory.
- mrspeaker 11y ago
  With several massive images that cover the screen with links to Indonesian landmarks... it's a... thing that shortens URLs into Indonesian landmarks?
  - markbnj 11y ago
    All I can say is that on first glance it appeared to me to be a url shortener, and the thought that it, um, shortened landmarks... or something... never crossed my mind.
- boomlinde 11y ago
  The label on the button only seemed to appear after loading the other, fuctionally irrelevant stuff for some 5-10 seconds.
everfree 11y ago
If you click the tiny 'help' button in the footer, click on "User Guides", load the 3MB PDF file, then go to page 002 (page 5 in the PDF document), there is a short blurb about what s.id is and does.
- vortico 11y ago
  I thought you were joking, but wow. The webmaster seems to have ordered the whole graphic design package for this website, where it's not needed at all!

hanief 11y ago

This is a url shortener made by PANDI [http://www.pandi.id http://www.pandi.id], Indonesian .id (dot id) ccTLD. Btw, they are opening anything.id right now, so you probably can search interesting domains like: humano.id, parano.id, etc.

themartorana 11y ago
We own http://literal.ly http://literal.ly - look, it's all good fun. Go grab a cool domain while they're available...
- deleted 11y ago
  [deleted]
crisnoble 11y ago
For others who started thinking about what other options would be available: http://www.wordfind.com/ends-with/id/ http://www.wordfind.com/ends-with/id/, but at 169/yr at 101domains (didn't do much shopping) it is too expensive for a lark. I mean what could I do with val.id? https://domainr.com/val.id https://domainr.com/val.id
voltagex_ 11y ago
How much control does the Indonesian government have over the registrars? I note that my favourite registrar, Gandi, can't do .id. Do you recommend any in particular?
voltagex_ 11y ago
Looks like "Okusi Associates" have done what you suggest and bought most words ending in "id" - it costs less than 3USD/year. Pity. Edit: Nope, got my conversion wrong. One registrar lists a fee of 275000 INR and many multiples of that for "short" domain names. Very glad I looked up what the thousands seperator was in Indonesia before clicking buy.

stevenspasbo 11y ago

Every time the background image changed the entire page became unresponsive.

vortico 11y ago

Short domain, but stop with the background images. This design style is one of the reasons the internet still doesn't seem faster after decades of improvement. I would much prefer a ~4KB HTML page with no dependencies containing just <form ...><input name="url"/><button>Shorten</button></form> The domain name is simple. Why not make the page the same way to demonstrate this for your service?

idealboy 11y ago
This. No one is going here for pretty pictures.
matteotom 11y ago
That's why I just made my own: http://mtb.wtf http://mtb.wtf It's really just a personal experiment to see if I could write a useful webapp entirely in lua in my nginx config: https://github.com/matthewbentley/urlshort https://github.com/matthewbentley/urlshort (which is actually a terrible idea in real life). It also automatically saves pages on archive.org, and you can access the info on a short code at mtb.wtf/i/<code> (ie, http://mtb.wtf/i/e093b http://mtb.wtf/i/e093b ). It also re-saves a fresh copy each time a url is re-submitted. You can also request a specific short code here: mtb.wtf/addexact
hakanito 11y ago
Been using Google's shortener for a while, does the job. http://goo.gl http://goo.gl
rkeene2 11y ago
There's always http://oc9.org/yourShortURLHere http://oc9.org/yourShortURLHere but I always get complaints that it's not obvious what it does or how to use it

ossreality 11y ago

This is a joke right? So heavy with huge pictures for no reason. Plus you do an HTML redirect? I can't even.

MrRadar 11y ago

There are way way too many of these sites and frankly even just having one breaks the web. Look at this list of dead shorteners: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=URLTeam#Dead_or_Broken http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=URLTeam#Dead_or_Broke... Imagine how many hyperlinks each takes with them when it dies and how many pages reference those links. Just stop it!

panglott 11y ago
It wouldn't be quite so bad if there was a good one run by a non-profit or open foundation.
hobarrera 11y ago
I'd never thought of this, but it's true and extremely harmful to the internet as a whole.
adultSwim 11y ago
For just the opposite of these, check out Handle (handle.net) It's a pay service to provide archival/permanent links. It's intended to help with URLs changing over time.