Can't agree more. I feel like the reason why a lot of Lispers back in the day ended up re-inventing the wheel is not because of Lisp's "dark, seducing power" bu

Can't agree more. I feel like the reason why a lot of Lispers back in the day ended up re-inventing the wheel is not because of Lisp's "dark, seducing power" but simply because the tools and solutions just weren't there yet. For example, if it wasn't for the existing JVM ecosystem of tools and libraries, I would probably end up creating my own undocumented, unportable, bug-ridden implementation of 80% of Netty. Instead, I just use https://github.com/ztellman/aleph https://github.com/ztellman/aleph