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Cultural differences must just be insane between US and Finland. Because I doubt any teacher here earns 7500€/mo (which would be $100k/yr). But I've been throug

Cultural differences must just be insane between US and Finland. Because I doubt any teacher here earns 7500€/mo (which would be $100k/yr). But I've been through this multiple times with software developing. All U.S. based developers are talking about $100k/yr starting salaries and shit, when here average is $37k/yr (software engineer starting salary according to union)

wil421 11y ago
I'm not sure on that 100k middle school teacher number. My mother was a teacher for over 15 years and I doubt anyone except maybe the rare administrator or the superintendent of the whole school system were making 100k. Most teachers are in the 40-60k range. One thing you can do if you have student debt is too work in a low income area for 5 years or so and have your loan forgiven. College is a little different. In my IT degree teachers were making anywhere from 70k-150k.
- 746F7475 11y ago
  It just constantly bogles my mind that apparently everyone in the US is earning six digit incomes on yearly bases. Either my family is poor (which I never thought) and I'm currently working for practically free (since I'm earning less than $40k/yr) or everyone over in the US is just way over reporting their incomes or value of goods is just so different that things some how equals out
  - wil421 11y ago
    One thing to keep in mind is that HN is very focused on startups and Silicon Valley where salaries are very inflated. In Atlanta, a good average starting salary for a junior dev would be 50-70k. I have 2-3 years experience on the platform I work on and I'm expecting to find my next job soon somewhere between 80-100k.
  - ausiausia 11y ago
    http://imgur.com/5bxGwMl http://imgur.com/5bxGwMl Some commentary: 1) 7 million households (can be single or married people) earn over $200,000 per year in the USA 2) 25% of US households make less than $25,000 per year 3) 25% of US households make more than $100,000 per year 4) Median income for average US household is $53,000 5) Asian/White households are significantly higher, 70-90k per year So I'd say not everyone is making above $100,000 per year but quite a large number are... say 31.1 million households (8-9% of the US total population)
  - pessimizer 11y ago
    You're working for practically free (or to be specific, for less than $20 an hour at a 2000hr/yr base.) Redo your resume and get it out there. Get some offers, ask your current job to match them, and if they don't, leave. If we can fight for $15 at McDonald's, as a programmer you should at least be able to hustle $30. possibly relevant: I'm not in SF, I'm in the midwest.
    - wil421 11y ago
      You did read that they were located in Finland.
  - jazzyk 11y ago
    If you take into account healthcare, college education and housing costs, all quite low in Finland and completely out of control in the US, your $40K may be not that bad.
    - 746F7475 11y ago
      It also might just be that I'm a recent graduate and as such my current employment brings in (literally) 9 times as much income as I've used to have for past 5 years (since I moved out from my parents), so I have more money than ever, but it might level off as I get used to it, but it's just been 6 months, so I'm still constatly surprised when I see my bank account's balance.

wil421 11y ago

I'm not sure on that 100k middle school teacher number. My mother was a teacher for over 15 years and I doubt anyone except maybe the rare administrator or the superintendent of the whole school system were making 100k. Most teachers are in the 40-60k range. One thing you can do if you have student debt is too work in a low income area for 5 years or so and have your loan forgiven. College is a little different. In my IT degree teachers were making anywhere from 70k-150k.

746F7475 11y ago
It just constantly bogles my mind that apparently everyone in the US is earning six digit incomes on yearly bases. Either my family is poor (which I never thought) and I'm currently working for practically free (since I'm earning less than $40k/yr) or everyone over in the US is just way over reporting their incomes or value of goods is just so different that things some how equals out
- wil421 11y ago
  One thing to keep in mind is that HN is very focused on startups and Silicon Valley where salaries are very inflated. In Atlanta, a good average starting salary for a junior dev would be 50-70k. I have 2-3 years experience on the platform I work on and I'm expecting to find my next job soon somewhere between 80-100k.
- ausiausia 11y ago
  http://imgur.com/5bxGwMl http://imgur.com/5bxGwMl Some commentary: 1) 7 million households (can be single or married people) earn over $200,000 per year in the USA 2) 25% of US households make less than $25,000 per year 3) 25% of US households make more than $100,000 per year 4) Median income for average US household is $53,000 5) Asian/White households are significantly higher, 70-90k per year So I'd say not everyone is making above $100,000 per year but quite a large number are... say 31.1 million households (8-9% of the US total population)
- pessimizer 11y ago
  You're working for practically free (or to be specific, for less than $20 an hour at a 2000hr/yr base.) Redo your resume and get it out there. Get some offers, ask your current job to match them, and if they don't, leave. If we can fight for $15 at McDonald's, as a programmer you should at least be able to hustle $30. possibly relevant: I'm not in SF, I'm in the midwest.
  - wil421 11y ago
    You did read that they were located in Finland.
- jazzyk 11y ago
  If you take into account healthcare, college education and housing costs, all quite low in Finland and completely out of control in the US, your $40K may be not that bad.
  - 746F7475 11y ago
    It also might just be that I'm a recent graduate and as such my current employment brings in (literally) 9 times as much income as I've used to have for past 5 years (since I moved out from my parents), so I have more money than ever, but it might level off as I get used to it, but it's just been 6 months, so I'm still constatly surprised when I see my bank account's balance.