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starting pay in cities is usually around $40-45k. it goes up the longer you're there. i had middle/high school teacher that's been doing it for 20yrs making 100

starting pay in cities is usually around $40-45k. it goes up the longer you're there. i had middle/high school teacher that's been doing it for 20yrs making 100k+.

yardie 11y ago
If they are making that there is no way it's just for teaching. I assume they have some administrative/leadership work involved. And probably a few degrees as well. When I was in school my freshly minted Calculus teacher was earning $60k with her MS Math. My English teacher, $120k, was also the English curriculum coordinator and had a PhD.Ed. And experience counts. The green, math teacher could barely keep a bunch of pubescent teenagers in their seats. Some of the exchanges were borderline sexual harrassment. The English teacher knew how to command a classroom.
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- ap3 11y ago
  In San Diego teacher's salaries are set according to a schedule. Fresh out of college you start at 40k and can increase to 90k after 15 years. But you can increase by doing clubs or other activities + advanced degreees. The downside is if you are a superstar teacher straight out of college you still make 40k. Similarly if you are a crappy teacher after 15 years you still make 90k Thanks unions!
  - yardie 11y ago
    First year, superstar teachers (which I truly believe are unicorns) have options to make more money. They can get advanced degrees or work in poor performing schools with federal funding. The former takes time and the later no one honestly wants to do. I don't think even superstar teachers can do it year after year. As far as pay. Like most jobs the first few years are low with a steep curve. Then it tapers off to COL increases once you've put in many years. This can be said of any job. Union and nonunion.
- withdavidli 11y ago
  They were more of a leadership role as well. 8th grade english teach probably had more than 20 yrs as a teacher, he was nearing retirement age (~60) and if memory serves me right he was the cluster leader. The high school history teacher was probably doing admin/leadership work, she eventually got her phd and became the vice principal. The area was pretty cheap too. Looking up citydata (2013), median household income: $50k, Median income per capita: $27k. For comparison in the same year SF was $77k and $52k respectively.
746F7475 11y ago
Cultural differences must just be insane between US and Finland. Because I doubt any teacher here earns 7500€/mo (which would be $100k/yr). But I've been through this multiple times with software developing. All U.S. based developers are talking about $100k/yr starting salaries and shit, when here average is $37k/yr (software engineer starting salary according to union)
- wil421 11y ago
  I'm not sure on that 100k middle school teacher number. My mother was a teacher for over 15 years and I doubt anyone except maybe the rare administrator or the superintendent of the whole school system were making 100k. Most teachers are in the 40-60k range. One thing you can do if you have student debt is too work in a low income area for 5 years or so and have your loan forgiven. College is a little different. In my IT degree teachers were making anywhere from 70k-150k.
  - 746F7475 11y ago
    It just constantly bogles my mind that apparently everyone in the US is earning six digit incomes on yearly bases. Either my family is poor (which I never thought) and I'm currently working for practically free (since I'm earning less than $40k/yr) or everyone over in the US is just way over reporting their incomes or value of goods is just so different that things some how equals out
    - wil421 11y ago
      One thing to keep in mind is that HN is very focused on startups and Silicon Valley where salaries are very inflated. In Atlanta, a good average starting salary for a junior dev would be 50-70k. I have 2-3 years experience on the platform I work on and I'm expecting to find my next job soon somewhere between 80-100k.
    - ausiausia 11y ago
      http://imgur.com/5bxGwMl http://imgur.com/5bxGwMl Some commentary: 1) 7 million households (can be single or married people) earn over $200,000 per year in the USA 2) 25% of US households make less than $25,000 per year 3) 25% of US households make more than $100,000 per year 4) Median income for average US household is $53,000 5) Asian/White households are significantly higher, 70-90k per year So I'd say not everyone is making above $100,000 per year but quite a large number are... say 31.1 million households (8-9% of the US total population)

starting pay in cities is usually around $40-45k. it goes up the longer you're there. i had middle/high school teacher that's been doing it for 20yrs making 100k+.

yardie 11y ago

If they are making that there is no way it's just for teaching. I assume they have some administrative/leadership work involved. And probably a few degrees as well. When I was in school my freshly minted Calculus teacher was earning $60k with her MS Math. My English teacher, $120k, was also the English curriculum coordinator and had a PhD.Ed. And experience counts. The green, math teacher could barely keep a bunch of pubescent teenagers in their seats. Some of the exchanges were borderline sexual harrassment. The English teacher knew how to command a classroom.

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ap3 11y ago
In San Diego teacher's salaries are set according to a schedule. Fresh out of college you start at 40k and can increase to 90k after 15 years. But you can increase by doing clubs or other activities + advanced degreees. The downside is if you are a superstar teacher straight out of college you still make 40k. Similarly if you are a crappy teacher after 15 years you still make 90k Thanks unions!
- yardie 11y ago
  First year, superstar teachers (which I truly believe are unicorns) have options to make more money. They can get advanced degrees or work in poor performing schools with federal funding. The former takes time and the later no one honestly wants to do. I don't think even superstar teachers can do it year after year. As far as pay. Like most jobs the first few years are low with a steep curve. Then it tapers off to COL increases once you've put in many years. This can be said of any job. Union and nonunion.
withdavidli 11y ago
They were more of a leadership role as well. 8th grade english teach probably had more than 20 yrs as a teacher, he was nearing retirement age (~60) and if memory serves me right he was the cluster leader. The high school history teacher was probably doing admin/leadership work, she eventually got her phd and became the vice principal. The area was pretty cheap too. Looking up citydata (2013), median household income: $50k, Median income per capita: $27k. For comparison in the same year SF was $77k and $52k respectively.

746F7475 11y ago

Cultural differences must just be insane between US and Finland. Because I doubt any teacher here earns 7500€/mo (which would be $100k/yr). But I've been through this multiple times with software developing. All U.S. based developers are talking about $100k/yr starting salaries and shit, when here average is $37k/yr (software engineer starting salary according to union)

wil421 11y ago
I'm not sure on that 100k middle school teacher number. My mother was a teacher for over 15 years and I doubt anyone except maybe the rare administrator or the superintendent of the whole school system were making 100k. Most teachers are in the 40-60k range. One thing you can do if you have student debt is too work in a low income area for 5 years or so and have your loan forgiven. College is a little different. In my IT degree teachers were making anywhere from 70k-150k.
- 746F7475 11y ago
  It just constantly bogles my mind that apparently everyone in the US is earning six digit incomes on yearly bases. Either my family is poor (which I never thought) and I'm currently working for practically free (since I'm earning less than $40k/yr) or everyone over in the US is just way over reporting their incomes or value of goods is just so different that things some how equals out
  - wil421 11y ago
    One thing to keep in mind is that HN is very focused on startups and Silicon Valley where salaries are very inflated. In Atlanta, a good average starting salary for a junior dev would be 50-70k. I have 2-3 years experience on the platform I work on and I'm expecting to find my next job soon somewhere between 80-100k.
  - ausiausia 11y ago
    http://imgur.com/5bxGwMl http://imgur.com/5bxGwMl Some commentary: 1) 7 million households (can be single or married people) earn over $200,000 per year in the USA 2) 25% of US households make less than $25,000 per year 3) 25% of US households make more than $100,000 per year 4) Median income for average US household is $53,000 5) Asian/White households are significantly higher, 70-90k per year So I'd say not everyone is making above $100,000 per year but quite a large number are... say 31.1 million households (8-9% of the US total population)