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TL;DR: 'habits books' market is huge. Then the author goes through a looong comparison in the recent literature and sums up what every author says. Conclusion:

by ff_ 11y ago

TL;DR: 'habits books' market is huge. Then the author goes through a looong comparison in the recent literature and sums up what every author says. Conclusion: differently from the past, in modern times there isn't basically any moralising tendency when teaching about breaking habits, and this is worrying for the development of society, or maybe not.

edem 11y ago
Thanks for not making me read 10 pages of wall of text.
- talles 11y ago
  Maybe you have your reasons, but I'm glad I did. For me, a long reading about an abstract thing such as habit is all about going philosophical while reading it. To wonder about it in other words. You can't get that with a TLDR. TLDRs are great for filtering what it's worth reading or not (maybe that's your reason), but I would never just stop it there if it's a subject that I hold interest in.
  - edem 11y ago
    I've read a lot about habits lately and I just wanted to know whether this is new information for me or not. It turned out that it is the latter in this case, thus my comment.
- platz 11y ago
  > wall of text There used to be thing called `literature`. Not everything has to be a 10-second sound-byte #TLDR.
amykhar 11y ago
I agree that it is quite long, but if you are interested in these types of books at all, skimming it yields some interesting stuff on habits as virtue. I confess I enjoy seeing how successful people strive to improve themselves.
jessriedel 11y ago
Highly useful. I'll keep saying it: HN should have a short abstract (aka tl;dr) attached to each article, written and updated by user submission like comments. Maybe minimal GitHub-like version control with pull requests accepted by vote. The abstract would be more valuable than comments, so accepted modifications could get extra karma.
- mkrfox 11y ago
  Some of the better subreddits require a "submission statement," which is pretty much this.
  - jessriedel 11y ago
    Neat. I'd never seen this. Some links in case others are interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/geopolitics/comments/3yh1ll/introducing_submission_statements_for_news_and/?sort=new https://www.reddit.com/r/geopolitics/comments/3yh1ll/introdu... https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/comments/1p4gqg/new_policy_for_truereddit_submission_statements/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/comments/1p4gqg/new_poli... Note that there is no support by the reddit software, so this just shows up as regular comment and can't be edited by the crowd. I'm still impressed that enough folks have recognized the value of the general idea. (Too often, asking for a tl;dr is considered ADD/low-class/impatient/etc.) And it also emphasizes that this could be useful not just to save time, but also to keep article quality higher, if submitters are required to justify the intellectual value of the submission.
- ryandrake 11y ago
  Fully agree. When I have 15 minutes, I'd love to get the gist of maybe 10 articles or so. Wall Of Text = I'll be skipping that one. A TL;DR summary is always appreciated!
mkrfox 11y ago
My go-tos are Lifehack (not Lifehacker) and Tiny Buddha. The advice is often very practical and has little/no moralizing.

by ff_ 11y ago

edem 11y ago

Thanks for not making me read 10 pages of wall of text.

talles 11y ago
Maybe you have your reasons, but I'm glad I did. For me, a long reading about an abstract thing such as habit is all about going philosophical while reading it. To wonder about it in other words. You can't get that with a TLDR. TLDRs are great for filtering what it's worth reading or not (maybe that's your reason), but I would never just stop it there if it's a subject that I hold interest in.
- edem 11y ago
  I've read a lot about habits lately and I just wanted to know whether this is new information for me or not. It turned out that it is the latter in this case, thus my comment.
platz 11y ago
> wall of text There used to be thing called `literature`. Not everything has to be a 10-second sound-byte #TLDR.

amykhar 11y ago

I agree that it is quite long, but if you are interested in these types of books at all, skimming it yields some interesting stuff on habits as virtue. I confess I enjoy seeing how successful people strive to improve themselves.

jessriedel 11y ago

Highly useful. I'll keep saying it: HN should have a short abstract (aka tl;dr) attached to each article, written and updated by user submission like comments. Maybe minimal GitHub-like version control with pull requests accepted by vote. The abstract would be more valuable than comments, so accepted modifications could get extra karma.

mkrfox 11y ago
Some of the better subreddits require a "submission statement," which is pretty much this.
- jessriedel 11y ago
  Neat. I'd never seen this. Some links in case others are interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/geopolitics/comments/3yh1ll/introducing_submission_statements_for_news_and/?sort=new https://www.reddit.com/r/geopolitics/comments/3yh1ll/introdu... https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/comments/1p4gqg/new_policy_for_truereddit_submission_statements/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/comments/1p4gqg/new_poli... Note that there is no support by the reddit software, so this just shows up as regular comment and can't be edited by the crowd. I'm still impressed that enough folks have recognized the value of the general idea. (Too often, asking for a tl;dr is considered ADD/low-class/impatient/etc.) And it also emphasizes that this could be useful not just to save time, but also to keep article quality higher, if submitters are required to justify the intellectual value of the submission.
ryandrake 11y ago
Fully agree. When I have 15 minutes, I'd love to get the gist of maybe 10 articles or so. Wall Of Text = I'll be skipping that one. A TL;DR summary is always appreciated!

mkrfox 11y ago

My go-tos are Lifehack (not Lifehacker) and Tiny Buddha. The advice is often very practical and has little/no moralizing.