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Ok, you can decide not to move to a state, because my haunch is that you'll do that once or twice in your lifetime.

by webXL 11y ago

vacri 11y ago
If I move state, it won't be because the state government broke into a cell phone. Police in certain areas in the US have shot innocent people in the back, yet those states aren't seeing huge exfluxes of population due to that. If the public aren't going to move state due to an innocent being shot by a macho cop, they're sure as hell not going to move because a phone got examined. And in any case, if you really want to change this stuff, don't vote with your feet, vote with your vote. A politician doesn't care if a detractor goes elsewhere. It doesn't hurt. A politician does care if detractors vote against them - they can lose their fat-cat job. A small percentage of outraged citizens leaving the state is actually better for the politician than that same percentage creating a swing against them in the election. Voting with your feet also doesn't help if all states are going down the same path (eg: current concealed carry laws are spreading like a virus)
- webXL 11y ago
  Don't be so pedantic. My point was that when selecting a new state, should the opportunity arise, you can factor a state's laws into your decision. Many people, particularly entrepreneurs do this everyday. Moving to get the law you want has a much higher chance of success than voting. Faster too.
  - vacri 11y ago
    Incorporating in Delaware is not moving to Delaware. And entrepreneurs aren't going to move to South Dakota if that state starts making favourable laws, because that's not where the population centers are (and hence markets for both customers and talent). Yes, you can "factor in a state's laws", but you're missing my point that no significant demographic of migrants will bother with "oh noes, that state broke into a criminal's iphone". The "invisible hand of the market as applied to the electoral system" does not apply in the OP's given context.
    - webXL 11y ago
      Do you honestly think there's no level of taxation that would cause people to physically leave a populated state? There is, and this is why states are forced to keep it relatively low, just as they are forced to not impose "demented" laws.

Ok, you can decide not to move to a state, because my haunch is that you'll do that once or twice in your lifetime.

by webXL 11y ago

Ok, you can decide not to move to a state, because my haunch is that you'll do that once or twice in your lifetime.

vacri 11y ago

If I move state, it won't be because the state government broke into a cell phone. Police in certain areas in the US have shot innocent people in the back, yet those states aren't seeing huge exfluxes of population due to that. If the public aren't going to move state due to an innocent being shot by a macho cop, they're sure as hell not going to move because a phone got examined. And in any case, if you really want to change this stuff, don't vote with your feet, vote with your vote. A politician doesn't care if a detractor goes elsewhere. It doesn't hurt. A politician does care if detractors vote against them - they can lose their fat-cat job. A small percentage of outraged citizens leaving the state is actually better for the politician than that same percentage creating a swing against them in the election. Voting with your feet also doesn't help if all states are going down the same path (eg: current concealed carry laws are spreading like a virus)

webXL 11y ago
Don't be so pedantic. My point was that when selecting a new state, should the opportunity arise, you can factor a state's laws into your decision. Many people, particularly entrepreneurs do this everyday. Moving to get the law you want has a much higher chance of success than voting. Faster too.
- vacri 11y ago
  Incorporating in Delaware is not moving to Delaware. And entrepreneurs aren't going to move to South Dakota if that state starts making favourable laws, because that's not where the population centers are (and hence markets for both customers and talent). Yes, you can "factor in a state's laws", but you're missing my point that no significant demographic of migrants will bother with "oh noes, that state broke into a criminal's iphone". The "invisible hand of the market as applied to the electoral system" does not apply in the OP's given context.
  - webXL 11y ago
    Do you honestly think there's no level of taxation that would cause people to physically leave a populated state? There is, and this is why states are forced to keep it relatively low, just as they are forced to not impose "demented" laws.